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20 Apr 2007, 8:04 pm

I'm thought of as rude, and I tend to realize what I'm saying as I'm saying it. I often find myself saying exactly the wrong thing, only to apologize, not really knowing why I said it in the first place.


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20 Apr 2007, 10:45 pm

I expect basic consideration from them, the same as I expect from everyone else.

If they do not show basic consideration, I am absolved from the responsibility to show consideration in turn... and I tend to get rather ruthless.

Had I been in the OP's situation, my response would have been something along these lines:

"With a single phone call, I could have any one of a dozen men in my bed, hot and ready for action, inside of an hour. If I wanted a relationship instead, I could replace you inside of a month. Don't look now, but women aren't exactly beating your door down. Maybe you should just count your blessings and shut the hell up."

I actually said this once to a dumbass I dated years ago who had insulted me one time too many. The quote is nearly verbatim. lol



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21 Apr 2007, 10:47 am

richardbenson wrote:
Apostledanub wrote:
Most of the time I don't say what I REALLY think.
thats my problem. i always say what i really think


I don't think that's wrong...to say what you think. I think if you learned how to say something to preface it... by saying your intent isn't to hurt someone's feelings. It's just that you think this...."...." and you don't have a problem with someone saying what they think....

and that you also think that's the way to make the world a better place. At least, that's what I think...



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28 Apr 2007, 2:52 pm

People call me arrogant and rude. I've learned this is because, in their eyes, I'm ignoring them because I think I'm better than they are. That is why I have one friend (and he considers me a puzzle, which is why I think he likes me). Anyone else pretending to be my friend are there to take from me in some way and, when I stop giving, their true nature comes out. Frankly, I think the problem is Neuro-Typical Disorder, a frightening affliction that unfortunately is such an epidemic that most of our population has it. It results in irrational, narcissistic behavior, and the constant judging of others based on a set of irrational and emotional winds that change based on any number of invisible factors that nobody can possibly see. I'm glad I don't have that problem!! !



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30 Apr 2007, 12:25 pm

Recently I got in the habit of saying 'sucks to be you'. It would just come out because it was the truth. I knew how rude it sounded but I didn't mean anything by it. Whatever I was speaking about wasn't going to suck for very long. It really was no big deal to me... it was to other people though.


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30 Apr 2007, 1:23 pm

k96822 wrote:
People call me arrogant and rude. I've learned this is because, in their eyes, I'm ignoring them because I think I'm better than they are. That is why I have one friend (and he considers me a puzzle, which is why I think he likes me). Anyone else pretending to be my friend are there to take from me in some way and, when I stop giving, their true nature comes out. Frankly, I think the problem is Neuro-Typical Disorder, a frightening affliction that unfortunately is such an epidemic that most of our population has it. It results in irrational, narcissistic behavior, and the constant judging of others based on a set of irrational and emotional winds that change based on any number of invisible factors that nobody can possibly see. I'm glad I don't have that problem!! !


Amen brother!

But still, if I expect people to put up with me then the least I can do is put up with them. People are who they are. We're all trying to survive and that's enough to make anyone go crazy. The person whom I relate to the most is psychotically emotional. I don't understand where it comes from. And when it hits it is ALL about her. But hey, at least I know what's wrong. It's refreshing.

And Aspies do come off the same way. Our factors are just as invisible to them. It really is the same difference. Still, FRUSTRATING!! !


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30 Apr 2007, 6:46 pm

TylerPaul wrote:
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People call me arrogant and rude. I've learned this is because, in their eyes, I'm ignoring them because I think I'm better than they are. That is why I have one friend (and he considers me a puzzle, which is why I think he likes me). Anyone else pretending to be my friend are there to take from me in some way and, when I stop giving, their true nature comes out. Frankly, I think the problem is Neuro-Typical Disorder, a frightening affliction that unfortunately is such an epidemic that most of our population has it. It results in irrational, narcissistic behavior, and the constant judging of others based on a set of irrational and emotional winds that change based on any number of invisible factors that nobody can possibly see. I'm glad I don't have that problem!! !


Amen brother!

But still, if I expect people to put up with me then the least I can do is put up with them. People are who they are. We're all trying to survive and that's enough to make anyone go crazy. The person whom I relate to the most is psychotically emotional. I don't understand where it comes from. And when it hits it is ALL about her. But hey, at least I know what's wrong. It's refreshing.

And Aspies do come off the same way. Our factors are just as invisible to them. It really is the same difference. Still, FRUSTRATING!! !


Absolutely; we need to be tolerant of others if we expect them to be tolerant of us. It's time to call Bono and start a "Cure NTD Now" campaign and make up ribbons :-)



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01 May 2007, 2:15 pm

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I'm rude a lot, and worried about being so even more than I manage it. I'm almost always either saying something inappropriate, or clamming up, wondering if what I want to say is ok.


I do that, but my answer to whether or not it's appropriate always turns out to be a "yes" and that's where I get into trouble. And I "clam up" quite often, sometimes it's like a giant adreniline rush that makes my brain unable to let my mouth talk(and vocal chords and such) other times I just don't talk.



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02 May 2007, 5:31 pm

The only real solution to this is a great deal of practice in social situations.

Also, "When in doubt, leave it out." is not just a useful maxim for writers. It applies here, too. :)



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02 May 2007, 7:02 pm

I come off as rude all the time because I'm always straight with people and I don't beat around the bush. For example, if I was introduced to a person wearing a "Fall Out Boy" T-shirt, the very first thing I would say to him/her would probably be "Wow, you have really bad taste in music."



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03 May 2007, 1:22 pm

I often feel confused and frustrated because I think I come off as being rude and inconsiderate. Definately unintentional. I want to talk to people just afraid that I will say something that will wound or offend them. Then again I know when I dont say anything at all that also comes across as being rude and stuck up. Oh dear Lord help me :(



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11 May 2007, 6:23 pm

I've come to assume that whatever I am saying may be construed as rude. It has gotten to the point where I am intentionally rude in some situation just because I don't see the point in trying to play the smiling clown just to make other people feel better. Screw 'em. If they can't learn to accept you for who you are and learn to be patient with your unintentional crassness then you really shouldn't waste your time trying to play that role. I get that we all have to be actors when out in public, but people like that just force the issue too far for your emotional health.



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12 May 2007, 10:30 am

Todd489 wrote:
I come off as rude all the time because I'm always straight with people and I don't beat around the bush. For example, if I was introduced to a person wearing a "Fall Out Boy" T-shirt, the very first thing I would say to him/her would probably be "Wow, you have really bad taste in music."


I once said something similar to someone about their music taste and it didn't for one second cross my mind that they'd be pissed off with me. It wasn't like I was getting at their personality, I didn't say "You must be a total tw*t for liking them" or anything, just that I didn't like the band. But they got cross.

Apparently I am insensitive and tactless but there's a difference between being tactless and purposely hurting someone. I guess things can be interpreted differently, but an out and out insult I would say lies on the downright mean side of the line.



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12 May 2007, 11:46 am

When I feel insecure I mostly nod and "mm, sure, yeah".
When I get annoyed I mostly look away and "mm, sure, whatever".

I am often percieved as rude. For quick example I answer what I think on questions about someone's cooking. My mother is often annoyed by this, but my father gets downright insulted. Stupid standard question.

I only insult people on purpose when they keep annoying me for too long (the definition of "too long" differs), and as I say something along the lines of "God, you're ugly" to Marcus, who is one of my oldest friends.


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13 May 2007, 4:33 am

Cordelia wrote:
What I've found to be the best way to handle a situation when I say something that affects someone?

I just explain that my goal wasn't to offend the person...and that I'm "kin" to George Bush :lol: . Now that's a man that falls over his tongue ALL the time and says things backwards. People laugh and get distracted by the thought. It moves the conversation to other areas.

I think also when we say something that hurts another person....we feel so badly we can't recover. It's that recovery process that's also a part of making sure we are safe.

Think of it as a "protective" technique....why? because there are people in this world that will hurt you on purpose. Like slashing tires, etc.


Cordiela, that's a good one.


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14 May 2007, 3:08 am

I say a lot of innapproppiate things but I don't know when I'm doing it. At my last job I was told I am rude often because i asked how often do I say rude stuff and my assisant manager said "all the time."

Last night I had an email from one of my new online friends and he told me his wife wants to know why I'm opinionated and blunt. He also told me I was getting obnoxious and have lost friends who started acting that way. i have no clue what I did wrong. He asked me what my thoughts were on gays and lesbians and about our president and if I support the army. I answered them honestly, I coudln't give him advice on how to have people understand his fetish because i didn't know what to say and had any suggestions. When he told me he was moving back here to Portland in 60-90 days because he is resigning from the army and I asked him why he was quitting and he got all defensive because he said "Look" and started telling me about his injuries he has. I think he and his wife dumped me as their friend because I haven't heard back after mt last reply to him. I was defensive and I said I wasn't going to be walking on eggshells and if they don't want to be my friend anymore, fine, there are lot of other people on the area that meet my interest.