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01 Apr 2016, 4:36 pm

At my various workplaces, it was always females who had an issue with me and started lots of drama. It wasn't all of the females, but all of the ones who had a problem were indeed females, usually in their twenties and thirties. Older women and all of the men didn't have a problem with me (except one time a male manager hated the fact that I wasn't more social and didn't agree with his political ideals and started being awful to me after that). I think confidence has a lot to do with it, too - and the problematic women also would talk trash on these confident girls behind their backs, though they wouldn't cause problems to their faces. Amazingly, I have even met some highly successful women who apparently lack some self-confidence, because they can be very petty/snarky/sabotaging/miserable as well. :-/



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01 Apr 2016, 4:47 pm

I've found women to be more critical of other women than men at times.

I think it's just being human and is universal.



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01 Apr 2016, 5:13 pm

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I am a female and I deal with other people in my work daily. The only people I ever seem to have a problem with are the other females and I don't know why they behave the way they do. The chattering and princess-syndrome complaining is really obnoxious- especially among the younger ones. One of them tried to start an argument with me and I calmly resolved it by using my rationale. I was not trying to be condescending at all and really don't think I came off that way as I am very soft spoken when I speak. I am really good at being calm and cool under pressure. Well, that didn't sit well with them. So, a month later they come back at me with some other problem trying to start another fight. I too deflected that and told them if they had any problems I would look into it right away and I did. I thought the issue was over, until they come at me again with another ridiculous issue saying that they are going to talk to direct management if it is not resolved. I calmly reply that everything has been taken care of for them and resolved. I suspect they will come back at me with something else trying to cause another problem soon because they didn't like that I was correct about the previous issue. I really feel like they want to get a rise out of me and are frustrated that they cannot.

My question is- what is up with this behavior? It's absolutely ridiculous and childish. They are the same age as me, yet act as if they are 10 years younger. I almost feel sorry for NT guys for having to deal with this. I don't understand why they keep trying to rehash issues that only end up making problems for themselves in the end. My questions is particularly for the females- and for the males who have dealt with this- how do you deal with it?


Ahh...yes..Women who have grown up with weak or absent fathers in their lives.

These are the "spoiled princess" types who need that domineering man, or fierce woman to put them in their place. Not all women are like that, especially not ones who were raised by a healthy parent or set of parents. But a lot of young women are basically children.

You can't take it personally when a 3 year old calls you a "stupid doo doo head" or a schizophrenic homeless person yells at you and tells you go kill yourself!

You are a STRONG WOMAN. Be a STRONG LEADER.

Don't try to reason with them. You can't. You stand there, look them deep in the eye, and tell them in a commanding voice, like you would a dog or child. "You are harassing me, and I would like you to keep your distance, or I will get the manager and file a formal complaint!"

Or just a sharp "NO!" hold out your hand to them to make a stop gesture. Strong eye contact, turn, and walk away.

Or just simply ignore them. They follow you around, walk away, don't acknowledge them, and simply do your job. That will piss them off more than anything.

If they want drama, don't give them drama. Don't feed the trolls, as they say.

I'd keep an audio recorder on you at all times to document the harassment.



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06 Apr 2016, 9:25 am

Hello, Ruby Tates,

I too have spent many years wondering about females who behave in the ways you and others describe in this thread.

Recently, I've come to the conclusion that I've spent my whole life assuming that this behavior is somehow acceptable, and desirable among females, but now I believe that I was wrong.

This is called "bullying" and I don't think it would be wrong of you to explain the improper conduct to the very same manager your bully threatened you with, and request that your place of business schedule a training session for all employees regarding bullying, and proper and improper workplace behavior. Once this woman, and all of the other employees have been formally trained, they can be disciplined if the behavior continues.

Good luck.



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06 Apr 2016, 6:27 pm

I had a roommate like that many moons ago who seemed to get along with the other roommate but with me she was always finding reasons to yell at me and blame silly things on me that were not my fault.

For the most part I ended up having to avoid her which worked well. I also learned to push back and though she didn't like it she left me alone.



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07 Apr 2016, 8:29 am

Some people are just strange like that, then again you're better then me because if they had started up with me it would have gotten worse.



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07 Apr 2016, 8:37 am

The roommate who I lived got mad at the smallest and silliest things.

1. I wasn't born in 1975 or earlier
2. She gave my parents her cell number and made us believe that it was the house line. When my mom tried to call me, she yelled at her on the phone. She also yelled at me
3. One time she had a chair in the kitchen set up against the wall and I didn't know so I pushed it in. She came home and said "That chair goes the other way."



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07 Apr 2016, 9:39 am

Oh yeah.

jkrane has kind of a good point, I think.

"Typical" shouldn't be taken to mean, "moral", or "good", or, "right", or "ethical", or "proper", or "acceptable", or any other positive term. Lying is considered to be neuro-typical behavior. Strict adherence to honesty is considered to be deviant.

That doesn't make lying good, and honesty bad. It only means that the majority of people lie, sometimes. It's typical, that's all!



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07 Apr 2016, 8:32 pm

I'd recommend looking into how to actively listen, and conflict resolution techniques in order to deal with this in future. If you feel it's getting to levels of harassment, you may want to get HR involved.

For the rest of this thread - yikes. Claims with regards to evolutionary biology could do with backing up, and it's important to avoid generalising, especially when that leads to an irrational dislike of one particular group of people who share nothing but a gender.



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08 Apr 2016, 8:38 am

Summer_Twilight wrote:
The roommate who I lived got mad at the smallest and silliest things.

1. I wasn't born in 1975 or earlier
2. She gave my parents her cell number and made us believe that it was the house line. When my mom tried to call me, she yelled at her on the phone. She also yelled at me
3. One time she had a chair in the kitchen set up against the wall and I didn't know so I pushed it in. She came home and said "That chair goes the other way."


Oh no thats terrible ! ! If she had yelled at my mom, she woulda got cut deep with the most blunt verbiage she ever heard. Then again I'm surprised you didn't get into arguments often because whoever this is sounds like they have alot of problems.



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25 Apr 2016, 9:27 pm

I understand that .



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09 May 2016, 9:59 am

As other users have stated, it's a socialization thing that occurs with women. Often times, girls get roped into socializing in large circles during school and then it just branches out from there.

I've had a lot of jobs in my past and honestly it sounds like they just don't like you at all and want you gone. I think most people have the right idea that they're being petty and annoying, but I can definitely tell you that women who keep coming back like that want something out of you and aren't just looking for a daily rise.

Ignore them.
Don't even respond to it. The BEST conflict resolution is to just ignore it because it drives the other party batty as hell and you just continue on as you were before. If something really did happen, I think you have the capacity to explain it rationally to upper management.



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09 May 2016, 11:32 am

I find NT females very difficult to relate to and communicate with. I have difficulty communicating with my mum sometimes and the fact that I'm F to M without the hormones and operation makes it that much harder. She already has a daughter. She has my younger sister. They can cackle together and leave me alone with my war toys all they wish.


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15 May 2016, 10:04 pm

RubyTates wrote:
I am a female and I deal with other people in my work daily. The only people I ever seem to have a problem with are the other females and I don't know why they behave the way they do. The chattering and princess-syndrome complaining is really obnoxious- especially among the younger ones. One of them tried to start an argument with me and I calmly resolved it by using my rationale. I was not trying to be condescending at all and really don't think I came off that way as I am very soft spoken when I speak. I am really good at being calm and cool under pressure. Well, that didn't sit well with them. So, a month later they come back at me with some other problem trying to start another fight. I too deflected that and told them if they had any problems I would look into it right away and I did. I thought the issue was over, until they come at me again with another ridiculous issue saying that they are going to talk to direct management if it is not resolved. I calmly reply that everything has been taken care of for them and resolved. I suspect they will come back at me with something else trying to cause another problem soon because they didn't like that I was correct about the previous issue. I really feel like they want to get a rise out of me and are frustrated that they cannot.

My question is- what is up with this behavior? It's absolutely ridiculous and childish. They are the same age as me, yet act as if they are 10 years younger. I almost feel sorry for NT guys for having to deal with this. I don't understand why they keep trying to rehash issues that only end up making problems for themselves in the end. My questions is particularly for the females- and for the males who have dealt with this- how do you deal with it?


NT females aren't worse than NT males, the males just aren't mean to you because you're a girl. I guess the same applies to me, I don't have problem with the females because I'm male. Anyway, the crap boys and girls do is different, but both do crap to people they feel they are competing with. It's just bullying, plain and simple.


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16 May 2016, 7:15 am

green0star wrote:
Summer_Twilight wrote:
The roommate who I lived got mad at the smallest and silliest things.

1. I wasn't born in 1975 or earlier
2. She gave my parents her cell number and made us believe that it was the house line. When my mom tried to call me, she yelled at her on the phone. She also yelled at me
3. One time she had a chair in the kitchen set up against the wall and I didn't know so I pushed it in. She came home and said "That chair goes the other way."


Oh no thats terrible ! ! If she had yelled at my mom, she woulda got cut deep with the most blunt verbiage she ever heard. Then again I'm surprised you didn't get into arguments often because whoever this is sounds like they have alot of problems.


Believe me I had a temper back then and I used to hit people and I was trying to learn not to do that because it could get me a criminal record. I was also learning not to have outbursts with people or get overly hostile. Rather it was better to avoid her. While I wasn't ready to live in a situation like that it still wasn't okay for her to abuse me. So I stuck it out and associated with people outside.



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16 May 2016, 8:51 am

This person sounds like he/she is sort of a nut.

I've met people like this; it's better to ignore this crap, rather than get angry at it.