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I don't "enjoy" having autism-----but it's certainly NOTHING TO BE ASHAMED OF.

What is the purpose for all this hyperbole. It doesn't make sense to me.

Many great people have been autistic. Many great people have not been autistic.

Can you talk about something else????? Aside from all the crap about autism that's not true?

How about something you're interested in?

You've been thinking wrong.

Yes, I know what leprosy is. It is a condition that doesn't make you get rejected all the time. Or fired. Or shot by the cops. Or sexually exploited. Or a million other things that could be mentioned.

And we have one that does.

Which is why it is probably preferable.

I’m not rejected all the time. It’s happened to me once or twice in my lifetime.

I’ve never been fired.

I’ve never been shot at by the cops (or arrested for that matter).

For the record, I have an official autism diagnosis.

Don't you have better things to do....than to come on here and spew hyperbole about autism?

Can't you read a good book or something? Or watch a nice YouTube video? Or go out for an ice cream? Or cook a steak in a pressure cooker? Or just....take a nice nap or something?

What is the basis for this hatred of autism?

Kraftie, in her defense she may be speaking from a place of great suffering and pain. The frequent mention of sexual assualt may mean having survived what they once called the "fate worse than death," and she mentions being taken advantage of by unsavory friends several times.

Pain makes us either get better or get bitter. Suffering is different. It's when we can take pain and use it to becoming a better person, more in line with the ideal for being human.

I have got a lot of sympathy for people who have lived through torments like those, but in the case of DorkyNerd lost respect for her opinions when she started advocating for prenatal diagnosis & abortion of autistic children. If capital punishment, prison brutality, grinding poverty, and corporal punishment of children are evil actions against human nature, then, naturally, killing autistic fetuses before they are able to enter the world is not healthcare but genocide. (I am of the opinion that induced abortion is never healthcare but let's not let my biases inform y'all's biases. I'm just talking here from the point of view of an autistic guy who is glad to be alive.) And euthanasia offered to people 10x more likely to commit suicide is not compassion--it is cruelty! I've been there before and actually thought about emptying a shotgun into my face, but am so glad to have decided that, since suicide hurts lots of people even if you don't think they really care aboutyou, and because I am convinced living is a gift from God even if it's a little tough sometimes (OK, a lot tough, lots of times) then it's a serious sin to shoot yourself because you're ready to give in and quit fighting. I'm glad the Church is so restrictive...it's probably why I'm alive today. Oh well, that's not entirely pertinent.

And as far as contributing to the community--I have a little beef with that on principle; it smacks of post-War attitudes that the citizen serves the Society as a whole. Rather dystopian, but it seems popular with American voters. Republicans rally round Trump's government-first policies and Democrats put people on the dole to gather votes...

...but even as someone who doesn't believe in it, I am contributing just fine even though I'm hella autistic. My first novel is fixing to start the publishing process, and I am fixing to start on a college degree in one of my special interests--it's English. Also, I spent $200 of my money I worked for--at a local hatters' and now I have got a nice sharp-looking fedora, not the neckbeard kind but the James Cagney kind, and it's surprisingly comfortable. (don't judge me--I kind of like hats.)

I don't want to bash DorkyNerd unduly, but she is either coming from a place of deep pain or she is a prejudiced troll. I hope I'm not making her sad by saying these things.

I just wish she would stop saying untruths about autism.

People might take it the wrong way....and may start thinking that “autism is worse than leprosy.”

I hope she’s not feeling pain.

I hope she's not hurting either, but either she is, or she is masquerading as autistic.

There may even be truth concealed behind the most dreadful lies. People say things they don't mean, or things they are too hurt to consider, when they are in pain. That's how torture works, a forced confession to bend the body to override the free will and simply go from rational, thinking creature to dear-God-make-it-stop.

The things she says will hurt people...

DorkyNerd, if you're reading this, no one wants to see you suffer. We will be here for you, even if we disagree a little or a lot. But there are a lot of people on this board who could be pushed further into depression or other unhealthy states by being told they are deficient and that their lives are not worth living. If you really do think our lives are not worth living, then please don't say it here. Kindness could truly save someone's life.

I still stand by everything I've said. I wouldn't take back a word of it. Why is any of it even controversial?!

[quote="DorkyNerd"]I still stand by everything I've said. I wouldn't take back a word of it. Why is any of it even controversial?!

Considering this topic I was thinking this would turn into reductio ad Hitlerum and I was right...you brought up the Nazis. Okay. So are you saying they got something right?

I truly don’t get where you have formed your conclusions, DN.

They’re certainly not based upon any objective common sense.

And nobody on WP should take what you say seriously.

What is your purpose in being on WP?

I hope it isn’t to insult folks.

I don’t give BS my “time and thought.”

I think this thread has been hijacked and she is not worth the consideration but it is probably wise to have statements like hers removed. They could actually hurt people. There are a lot of borderline suicidal people on Wrong Planet. Why, there are some days even I am a little bit down. And what she is saying could really hurt someone in crisis because they might end up attempting to kill themselves.

Free Speech is a convenient myth. Libel is, for example, a crime. You can't just say what you like. And if you have even the slightest hint of that compassion you claim, DorkyNerd, abort your comments instead of advocating to destroy disabled people. Because we're 1) already here, more on the way, and 2) we're actually human beings. Just like you.

And you don't have to be Catholic--or even religious--to fight eugenics. I've been at a massive protest march of 640,000 people and there was a sign waving around a crowd of people--it read, "Atheists for Life."

But it's not an anti-abortion argument I'm making here. (Maybe another time if anyone's interested. Anyone? Didn't think so, lol) It's an argument for the value of everybody here who communicates with Wrong Planet, all the people who will read Wrong Planet ten years from now, and literally anyone who comes in contact with you unless in real life you act like a civil human being, which here you certainly do not.