Would the Columbine guys be my homeboys?

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Wow, did that get off the track.
Nowhere in that post did I imply elitism, or that Aspies are smarter.
I stated the opposite, and that it is a huge spectrum.
The point was that most of us are not a threat.

Ok, lets start over. Without the pre-conceived notions.

We are in WrongPlanet, a site dedicated to Aspergers. Most of us would agree with the statement: “AS is an alternate brain architecture that results in strengths and weaknesses, and is not an illness.” It is a huge, complex subject. We are using these various threads in an attempt to break it down into managable components. We are here because we want to understand.
(If you disagree with this paragraph, stop reading here. You are in the wrong forum.)

Obviously, we all breathe and eat and do all those basic human things. We also have huge differences that cause conflicts and problems. We are here to explore and try to understand those differences and conflicts.

We are talking about the Columbine boys. They represent a lot of unnamed and unexplored issues. Most of us want to understand. Is this relevant to my situation? Would understanding it be useful?
(If you disagree with this paragraph, stop reading here. You are in the wrong thread.)

Some of us, like "spudnik," have such a strong, knee-jerk reaction (another whole bunch of unnamed and unexplored issues, not relevant to this discussion) that they wanted to condemn the discussion along with the boys. Censoring unnamed and unexplored issues just sends them underground, where they will do harm in unpredictable ways.
(If you do not wish to discuss and understand the Columbine boys, stop reading here. You are in the wrong thread.)

[quote="Aurore"]So why are we debating IQ in Aspies, and then elitism?[quote]

We are not “debating” anything at this point. "Phagocyte" is knee-jerking about the topic itself (the Columbine boys) and putting words in my mouth about “elitism.”

I agree with “Aurore," if what you meant is, “let’s get back on the topic.”

Did those guys really pee on your stuff, I've had guys dip my pants in shower water but that's it, geez, I wanted to shoot someone...
But then I got them back by putting sand in their shoes.

So, what can you do? I don’t know. I’m still trying to figure it out.

You could deny the obvious reality, internalize it, and become a part of the problem.
The Stockhold Syndrome. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
I call it the 600-pound gorilla. The conspiracy of silence.
I don’t like that one.

You could remain conscious that this is a real problem. That leads back to the question, What can you do? I’ll start a list and see if anyone can finish it.

A. – Shut up and take it.
- - - 1. Just shut up and take it, like I did. Wait until you are 16, drop out and get an apartment. And spend the next thirty years being fully conscious and pissed off, and knowing that no one gives a damn.
- - - 2. Joke about it. Reduce part of the pain while half-becoming part of the problem.
- - - 3. Fantasize about paying them back directly or some general misfortune.
- - - 4. Find a safe shoulder to cry on, but don’t hope for the abuse to end.

B. – Fight back, NT style.
- - - 1. The straight-forward, Terminator approach. Pick up a garbage can and swing it over your head. Break a bottle and wave the jagged pieces in the guy’s face. That probably won’t work. Either they’ll pound you to a bloody pulp, or the cops will take you away, not because of your behavior, because you’re an Aspie, and Aspies are not allowed to do that.

- - - 2. Think like a girl. Go behind their backs and whisper. Tell the truth to the right girls, in the most unflattering way, “they peed on my stuff.” Tell creative Lies and/or truths that make them look like fools, but that no one will ever repeat to the jerks. “His penis is deformed” or whatever. As long as it’s humorous, but you do it with a straight face. The jerks will be the last to know. You’ll probaby take a pounding eventually, but you’re getting that anyway. Might as well be for something good.

C – Tattle. By this, I mean complain to a Pig in a position of authority in a way that is ineffective and will only make your situation worse.

D – Slam ‘em. By this, I mean find an effective way of complaining to someone in authority who will take you seriously and deal with it.

- - - 1. Do your homework. What documentation can you take to your guidance counselor that will wake him up? Many states now have laws that require all schools to have anti-bullying policies. The Feds have been talking about it (HR ) but I don’t think it passed. Your teachers all know about it, but they would rather shrug it off. http://stopbullyingnow.hrsa.gov/adult/i ... =newjersey

- - - 2. Get your story straight. Step One: Write a “therapy letter” to an imaginary friend, if that helps, about what really happened. The first draft can be full of cussing and whatever makes you feel better, as long as it includes real names and dates and facts. Step Two: In the same document, Cut the crap from your letter. Comb through it a hundred times and get rid of the stuff that makes you look bad. Step Three: Don’t save the bad stuff, in any form.

- - - 3. Be honest. Be ready to freely and openly acknowledge any little mistakes you have made. The “share the blame” game makes sense to NTs and makes them feel better. If you honestly have not done anything wrong (like me) just play along as much as possible. But this can backfire. When you’re dealing with pigs, your acceptance of 2% of the blame instantly becomes 100% of the blame, case closed.

I’m thinking out loud, here.
Has anyone actually tried anything that worked?

Why would anyone want to be homeboys with the Columbine boys? Their names would not even be known to us if they hadn't killed all those people and then shot themselves.