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30 Jul 2008, 11:37 am

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I don't see a lot of difference between "small talk" & "white lies".
White lies are the statements that you'd make to spare someone else's feelings,
or get yourself out of a jam. The statements you make are essentially meaningless.

Small talk can be taken as a superficial effort at being polite, or simply passing the time
with a relative stranger. I prefer to get direct to the point in dealing with others, but in Rome you speak Italian. In Berlin, you drink beer. And in Seoul, you go through an hour of small talk before it's polite to talk business.


daaamn... well i will make sure to put Seoul on my No Fly No Cruise No Travel list.


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30 Jul 2008, 12:43 pm

Strapples wrote:
shadowboxer wrote:
I don't see a lot of difference between "small talk" & "white lies".
White lies are the statements that you'd make to spare someone else's feelings,
or get yourself out of a jam. The statements you make are essentially meaningless.

Small talk can be taken as a superficial effort at being polite, or simply passing the time
with a relative stranger. I prefer to get direct to the point in dealing with others, but in Rome you speak Italian. In Berlin, you drink beer. And in Seoul, you go through an hour of small talk before it's polite to talk business.


daaamn... well i will make sure to put Seoul on my No Fly No Cruise No Travel list.


Is that why I had such a hard time with the cute Korean girl I went out with once about a year ago? She was from Seoul. Although she was here to study English, we ended up speaking in Japanese more, as we were less likely to confuse each other than using our native languages. (I know a tiny amount of Korean, basically some set phrases)



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30 Jul 2008, 12:48 pm

No_YOU_get_over_it wrote:
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I do it as part of my job - I work behind a checkout in a supermarket :P

Hats off. Sometimes shop cashiers are the most human contact I have in a week. They seem to see that I'm human, and they seem to welcome small indications that I see them as human. Of course, perhaps they see me as a freak and are laughing at my efforts to integrate. Either way, smiles are exchanged.


Cheers! Yeah, if most 'Customer Service Assistants' (the official job-title, haha!) are anything like me, they try to look for the humanness in people, as you say, because a lot of the time, that's the appealing thing about working in a place where you have to deal with the public - there's lots of human contact (more than I usually ever get), and people never judge you on stupid things like appearance because you're in uniform :)
Well, obviously there's the money as well :lol:



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30 Jul 2008, 2:05 pm

Mostly I see it as a symptom of Neurotypical Syndrome, along with their difficulty in using logic and reason (intelligent NTs can be taught to use logic but it is never quite as natural or instinctive for them as it is for those of us without the syndrome). They have a compulsion to talk constantly even though no actual information is being transmitted.



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30 Jul 2008, 4:56 pm

A "SMALL" conversation ( INVOLVING TALKING ) , so small talk , just simply a shorter conversation.



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31 Jul 2008, 2:28 pm

I always liked the definition I saw someone (probably Terry Pratchett) use in a book once; something along the lines of 'the bunch of noises which mean "I am alive and so are you"'. :)


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03 Aug 2008, 3:53 am

No_YOU_get_over_it wrote:
I don't get it at all. Well, maybe from an alien-anthropologist visiting a bizarre planet I do.

That's the story of my life. I was doing it years before I heard the word. I'm also an alien-psychologst, so this link made sense to me:
Poor NT Sufferers! ;o) http://www.experienceproject.com/uw.php?e=128967

No_YOU_get_over_it wrote:
...Directing the pony show...

With my in-laws, the pony is always about food.
First, it's about what's on hand. It's a hospitality thing -- are you hungry? But it goes on and on. (And no, thanks, because I know that you're going to stare at me throughout the process.)
Once they're satisfied, either because you've eaten something or because they've listed everything in the house, down to the last stick of butter...
THEN they can move on to what's on sale, favorite recipes and a thousand other food issues.
At this stage, it's just because they're bored and you may now "direct the pony show" to something else. But slowly and gently. The NT's stream-of-consciousness doesn't take quantum leaps the way mine does, and they are easily frightened.

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...Smalltalk is worthless BS...

Not exactly. There's actually something going on. But it's complicated.
You're 17... If you're headed for college, take an anthropology course ASAP.
It's not the answer to everything, but it's a big piece of the puzzle. You'll build on it later.



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04 Aug 2008, 2:56 pm

Small talk :it fills the silence.

Basically you know an anime or cartoon ... well when the commercials come into the show ... that's small talk ... it's filler chat ... like "Hey man, hows life?" ... or "did you see that, reminds me of my ex wife" ... its junk that normally has no impact on anything and is in fact a waste of time ... people of the "norm" fear silence so they chat or play nice ... thats the best I can do for ya.


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06 Aug 2008, 8:28 am

Strapples wrote:
MadAme wrote:
My college classmates used to say to me, "You're too down-to-earth, you need to learn to make small talk!" Grrr.


No you dont!

Smalltalk is freaking worthless BS... its like if you dont have a good conversation to talk about then please dont talk and get on with life dont waste my time with your damn smalltalk. if i want to find out "how the weather is" i will go on my damn google page. if i want to find the cheapest gas i will go to gasbuddy.com and god for bid if i want to find out what was on the damn b00b tube last night I WILL LOOK ONLINE!! !


Thank you.



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06 Aug 2008, 10:19 pm

I don't necessarily know the difference either. I mean, I start most of my conversations with what I've termed my "polite" formula by asking how they're doing. Am I being insulting to my friends by doing this? Am I saying "I only want to make small talk and therefore don't care"?

Gah, stupid social crap.


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06 Aug 2008, 10:36 pm

dull subjects thats wat it is!



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06 Aug 2008, 10:36 pm

dull subjects thats wat it is!