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16 Aug 2010, 12:15 pm

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I hate them. They make me nervous, and they make me say my sentences all wrong, and they make me confused, and they make me feel sad because the person doesn't care about me, or is simply wrong.


So you go trolling two internet messageboards to give yourself a power trip. I know your game spazzer i'm onto you


Are you serious? 8O

Well, online ones are QUITE different than real ones. Real ones freak me out. :P


No i'm not serious im a sarcastic english bastard at your service

Online arguments keep me up all night. At least IRL ones end in a relatively quickly. If i've had a few pints I tend to start correcting people i would normally tolerate talking out of their arse on a given subject. Alcohol activates my "for great justice I must avenge the truth!" mode.


Oh, haha, nice. :P

That's funny, If we were ever drunk together, you'd probably end up stabbing me cause I'd laugh every time you tried to make a point. XD I'm a super happy drunk. :P



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16 Aug 2010, 12:39 pm

I remember in yorkshire sometime in some heavy metal pub up there some polish fella was telling me how great Stalin was and how he achieved the great victory over germany in world war 2. Being the obsessive aspie into eastern front type that I am and having a few pints of cider in me at this stage I could not let this man speak utter crap any longer and took him down like a be'yatch I think even socrates would have been proud of my rubuttle to his claims.

In the mean time my friends after trying to stop me from righting this great injustice of facts proceeded to face palm at my actions for several minutes before giving up and leaving me to it for a bout half n hour while I lectured this poor polish leftie punk fella....

I become more of a winde up merchant then normal when drunk. My prankster side emerges much to the digust of my mature adult side. I don't have a Jekhl and Hyde complex I think I struggle with a bevis and butthead one.



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18 Aug 2010, 4:09 am

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I think I struggle with a bevis and butthead one.


Heh heh, Heh... cool.



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18 Aug 2010, 4:55 am

I like a reasoned debate, but not an argument.



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18 Aug 2010, 6:32 am

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In some cases, one of us is wrong. [...] If I am actually wrong, prove it. Otherwise shut the hell up.


Well said.

If someone disagrees with me and then justifies their opinion with flawed logic, I'm going to tell them so, and prove it. I don't have a problem with them arguing against me, but a weak retort looks silly. If anything, I'm doing them a favour by strengthening their defence.

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i do not argue if i am not certain i am correct. i rarely am certain that i am correct so i rarely argue.
if i know i am correct then i will assert that i am correct and i will not listen to any alternative ideas.


Do you accept that sometimes there might be important points of view which you hadn't considered?



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18 Aug 2010, 7:26 am

Asp-Z wrote:
I like a reasoned debate, but not an argument.


Could have fooled me son



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18 Aug 2010, 7:33 am

Laz wrote:
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I like a reasoned debate, but not an argument.


Could have fooled me son


What? Because you made false claims about the NAS and I proved them to be so?



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18 Aug 2010, 8:03 am

CrinklyCrustacean wrote:
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i do not argue if i am not certain i am correct. i rarely am certain that i am correct so i rarely argue.
if i know i am correct then i will assert that i am correct and i will not listen to any alternative ideas.


Do you accept that sometimes there might be important points of view which you hadn't considered?


no. if i have decided what is the case then i can sleep well with my conclusion.
i arrive at conclusions which are not malleable because i consider every aspect of my question , and i resolve all of them.

other people talk from whatever standpoint they are adopting, and other people are not me, so their final ideas are not connected in any real way to my final assessments.

you may consider me stupid because i close my case with only what i have considered, but i consider the matter resolved and i move on to other queries i have in a sequential and unhindered manner because i am not tripped up by hurdles of external contention.

if i am wrong then who cares.



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18 Aug 2010, 10:12 am

I can't say I care for conflicts either, the thing is sometimes you get into them without even trying. You say one wrong thing and people will get upset with you. Really, you can never really win in the end. The only way to avoid conflicts is to not talk which is one of the many reasons why I keep my mouth shut. I never talk about topics like gay marriage, abortion, politics, ethnicity, etc. Those topics are just asking for arguments because no matter what stance you have on these topics, someone will blast you for them.


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18 Aug 2010, 10:18 am

I don't like them either, especially since my family is arguing almost all the time. D:



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19 Aug 2010, 6:43 am

b9 wrote:
You may consider me stupid because i close my case with only what i have considered, but i consider the matter resolved and i move on to other queries i have in a sequential and unhindered manner because i am not tripped up by hurdles of external contention.

What if listening to someone who disagreed resulted in you finding a better resolution?



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19 Aug 2010, 11:00 am

CrinklyCrustacean wrote:
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You may consider me stupid because i close my case with only what i have considered, but i consider the matter resolved and i move on to other queries i have in a sequential and unhindered manner because i am not tripped up by hurdles of external contention.

What if listening to someone who disagreed resulted in you finding a better resolution?


i really do not know. i can not process that scenario.
i only take a stance when i am fully certain of the correctness of it, and if someone disagrees, then they have not considered the situation fully as i have.

i do not argue about what i believe to be true. belief is not knowledge.
i could be wrong if i only "believe" what i think.
when i know what i think is true, then i also do not argue because whoever disagrees is wrong and there needs to be no correspondence on the matter.

there are few things that i am certain of, and i will not engage in debate about them because it is a waste of energy.