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subatai_baadur
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28 Aug 2006, 9:58 pm

Read the FAQ on Private Messages. It has a question on it. Odds are if it isn't in the TOS and you question it, someone else has done the same. Thus, FAQ's are the way to go.


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28 Aug 2006, 10:27 pm

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I keep getting unwanted private messages!
In the future we will be adding an ignore list to the private messaging system. For now though if you keep receiving unwanted private messages from someone inform the board admin, they have the power to prevent a user from sending private messages at all.


No wonder this is so hard. The PM rules are all over the place. There is a bit in the forum rules
http://www.wrongplanet.net/asperger.htm ... ic&t=12459

Theres that bit in the FAQ

and the tiny bit in the TOS.

But never mind - Christopher M has started abusing people directly in the forums.

The only site admin I know besides Alex (who has done exactly nothing to help with this), is Cockney Rebel.

Cockney Rebel - could you please take away Christopher M's ability to send pms on wrong planet because he sends abusive PMs.



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28 Aug 2006, 10:35 pm

Ok I sent Cockney Rebel a PM with the same request (and some references).



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28 Aug 2006, 11:25 pm

christopher_m wrote:
Hi Girls,

My name is Chris. I live in Dunedin, New Zealand and would love to make some female friends out there. Please feel free to text message me and say hello or email me here.

I am 29, I feel very lonely :( , very depressed :( , and would like to talk to some girls to keep me from my lonliness. I need some support at this moment because I am very sad.

I feel very lonely without a girl and when each day goes past I miss someone special in my life. :cry:

Please show me that you love me and message me back. Please give me some kisses as well. I need someone to brighten my day. I just need some affection.

Chris, :heart:


No I do not love you and I have no desire whatsoever to meet you by PM, since I know you are nasty and abusive to people by PM once you figure out that they do not want to be your girlfriend. Why would anyone want to be the girlfriend of a man who is so nasty and abusive to women?

While I agree that the content of private messages should ordinarily remain private, this is an exception when someone is using private messages to abuse other people. I strongly urge every person who has gotten an abusive PM from "Christopher_M" to forward these PM's to Alex, because I know he does not condone this sort of behavior and he will take steps to ensure that it does not happen again.



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29 Aug 2006, 12:21 am

Callaway wrote:
... I strongly urge every person who has gotten an abusive PM from "Christopher_M" to forward these PM's to Alex, because I know he does not condone this sort of behavior and he will take steps to ensure that it does not happen again.


Just wondering how you "know" this - because - it didn't work for me the first time I asked Alex questions about this man's behaviour via the contact us page and pm. It's not very encouraging when you get no response at all.



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29 Aug 2006, 1:30 am

I've PM'ed Alex again with a copy of the last message I got from christopher m.

Here's hoping something constructive gets done this time. Though I don't expect anything to happen until maybe morning USA time. (+9 hours).



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29 Aug 2006, 6:53 am

Chris M. This is not a dating service. This is a place for people to exchange words, advice, emotions and ideas. This is not a place to exchange Mojos.



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29 Aug 2006, 7:06 am

I disagree with anyone that thinks we should show Alex, I can't trust him to begin with after the whole reading peoples PMs unwillingly thing.

I don't plan on showing them to anyone, but if I recieve any more I will make them public.



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29 Aug 2006, 7:10 am

I will also make any PMs that I recieve from him public, as well.



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29 Aug 2006, 9:17 am

subatai_baadur wrote:
Read the FAQ on Private Messages. It has a question on it. Odds are if it isn't in the TOS and you question it, someone else has done the same. Thus, FAQ's are the way to go.


Screw the FAQ. If someone is sending a person threatening pms, others need to know so they don't contact that person. If you want to place your safety in the hands of the website's TOS and FAQ, go right ahead. Ignorance is bliss until you have a stalker on your doorstep.



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29 Aug 2006, 11:13 am

hale_bopp wrote:
I disagree with anyone that thinks we should show Alex, I can't trust him to begin with after the whole reading peoples PMs unwillingly thing.

I don't plan on showing them to anyone, but if I recieve any more I will make them public.


The way I see it is that it is not acceptable for someone to use the Private Messaging system here to harass or to threaten people. Alex can remove his ability to send Private Messages at all or he can ban someone for doing this.

I see subatai_baadur's point about Private Messages usually being kept private, but surely this is an exception because people can't be allowed to threaten one another by Private Message and then hide behind privacy rules. Like Sorce says, screw the FAQ, this is a very serious issue.

If you are unwilling to PM Alex the abusive Private Messages for some reason, then you should post them so other people are warned what sort of person "Christopher_M" is. One way or another, Christopher_M needs to be dealt with. Keeping his abusive Private Messages secret just plays right into his hands and allows him to keep on doing this to other people. That's not OK.



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29 Aug 2006, 11:25 am

Simple solution:

IP ban.



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29 Aug 2006, 11:46 am

dont ban him, just get a grip. It's only a message or 10, just ignore him. I personally don't care if he posts the same thread every day for the next 20 years and sends me 45 insulting pms a day, it's not as if he can say anything that's going to bother me.


and threats? What're threats when most of us are thousands of miles away. Yawn.



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29 Aug 2006, 11:55 am

it's too late now anyway. He already had what he wanted: 3 pages of replys and arguing :roll:



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29 Aug 2006, 9:19 pm

TechnoMonk

It's ok for you to dismiss threats so easily - you're male (according to your profile) so he has zero interest in you.

But some of us are not so far away. He can visit my country without a visa and already has spent a year or so in Queensland with his rellies. And Hale Bopp is in the same country as him.

I'm not really worried about what he would do if he shows up on my door step, I'm more worried about what I would do to him because he frightens me - I wouldn't wait for him to start something - I'd assume the worst if he was on my door step and I wouldn't give him a chance. And after I'd gone ballistic, I reckon it would be me that ends up in jail. :( A girl in a fight with a guy cannot afford to let the guy get the first hit. But if she attacks first - it is harder to argue self defence even if she does have copies of the threatening messages.

I don't know about this guy in particular but the patterns I've seen -
1. he could be completely talking out of his arse.
2. he's about to implode - he's so angry with the world - he takes it out verbally on others and then kills himself.
3. he's about to explode - he's so angry with the world - he takes it out violently on lots of other people, and then kills himself.

I'm not sure which one of these he is - or if he's something else. Impossible to tell. I'm also fairly sure he's on various medications and he's having major ups and downs. Sad, suicidal, depressed and pathetic one message, Happy and sexually aggressive in the next, and then Angry and Abusive - repeat. I'm not sure if you attack the world when you're "up" or when you're "down". I guess - when you're "up" because you feel invincible. And I can't put it down to teen angst - because he's 29 years old.

Anyway - the kind of crap he's pulled so far, has to be taken seriously. I wonder if I should send the men in white coats to get him. And then I think like you do (TechnoMonk) that he's too far away to be my problem. And then I think about Columbine, and Pt Arthur, and Hoddle Street etc and "going Postal".



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29 Aug 2006, 10:09 pm

I forgot to post the update - I had a couple of messages to say christopher_m is banned.