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10 Mar 2012, 12:30 am

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i currently study in South America where women are expected to be beautiful (naturally or fake), prissy, domestic, undereducated, weak, and social above all. i don't meet with any of that criteria 'cos i can't put up with that BS. 3 years since i studied there i haven't had a single friend at all. no matter what country i'm at, i just don't fit in.


Its really sad and hurtful. I go through those periods too and it really scares me.

I just dont feel like go out because of this problem. And earlier i could not diagnose this problem but now since i have read a lot about this on this site i got a fair idea of my problem


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10 Mar 2012, 12:55 am

yes of course. handals feel good in the hands, they even named handals after them. i'm serious~


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10 Mar 2012, 1:30 am

Probably, my life would just be harder and more limiting and more stressful. But I would just be going online and asking for help instead when I would need it so I can see what I am supposed to do.



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10 Mar 2012, 3:44 am

I always find that i contradict myself, i really want friends to come over, but when they're here i want them to leave again and not see them for months :o Anyway i shouldn't complain since i have atleast 2 friends that i can see, its just always a 2 sided struggle for me, oh well maybe i'll figure it out more when time goes on, the stupid thing is i can't deal with physical contact either but i do want it :S Like a hug or something :o Sorry i use a lot of smileys.



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18 Mar 2012, 1:08 am

namaste wrote:
If you give up on your craving for being loved emotionally and physically then you will find a partner who can live with you and give you company.
I am married and i like the space my husband gives me he doesnt emotionally interfere with me like my mom, dad and brother did. He also doesnt get too physical which is good for me i dont like too much physical contact.


okay, i don't know if i can take your comment seriously...but do you really think that advice is gonna help me? my understanding of couples, gay or straight, is that they connect both emotionally and physically. that way they feel loved, needed and wanted. clearly you didn't understand the last post that i typed: i said if i'd ever have a boyfriend (which would probably be never because of what i am), i'd love to have the emotional & physical connection from him. and i'm also capable of giving the same things back to him as best as i can wherever he may be. i too wanna feel like i'm loved, needed, and wanted instead of being repulsed and rejected like i'm used to.

i don't know how anyone can live without the need of love, emotional and physical contact. you say you're married, but what for? you say you just want your space. how does that work for you when you have a husband/boyfriend? it doesn't sound like your "marriage" or whatever it is to you will last long. how do you see him and how does he sees you in this relationship of yours without emotional & physical contact?



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18 Mar 2012, 2:08 am

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okay. but no matter how or when you do interact with others you still won't have friends or lovers because of Autism/Asperger's, how can that be possible? aren't we condemned to be lonely because of our disability? isn't that what they're trying to say? sorry if i'm exaggerating.


I wouldn't say I have friends, I have a small patchwork of acquaintances. People I can talk to from time to time. I'm not alone, I just have a small social patchwork that leads me to social interaction, enough that I can get what I need which is a little bit of human quality time and just enough isolation to keep me from exploding. I think if I had a busy social life cycle that I wouldn't be able to keep up. I think I would be exhausted. I think I would collaspe from exhaustion if I did so.

You don't really have to be lonely, just don't always think in ultamtiums. "Friends" or "Loneliness" there are other gray areas. "Aquaintances" is one of them.



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18 Mar 2012, 5:05 am

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okay, i don't know if i can take your comment seriously...but do you really think that advice is gonna help me? my understanding of couples, gay or straight, is that they connect both emotionally and physically. that way they feel loved, needed and wanted. clearly you didn't understand the last post that i typed: i said if i'd ever have a boyfriend (which would probably be never because of what i am), i'd love to have the emotional & physical connection from him. and i'm also capable of giving the same things back to him as best as i can wherever he may be. i too wanna feel like i'm loved, needed, and wanted instead of being repulsed and rejected like i'm used to.

i don't know how anyone can live without the need of love, emotional and physical contact. you say you're married, but what for? you say you just want your space. how does that work for you when you have a husband/boyfriend? it doesn't sound like your "marriage" or whatever it is to you will last long. how do you see him and how does he sees you in this relationship of yours without emotional & physical contact?


I had a arranged marriage. I live in India. Here in India parents fix up the marriage for their children
During the 50's-60's the boy and girl never even saw each other before marriage but now atleast they are shown the photos of each other or introduced to each other once before marriage is finalised.
Here the astrologer decides which girl is compatible for the boy based on after analyzing horoscope.
In India parents never hug or say I love you to their children. Usually parents are very strict and whatever they say a child as to listen
without questioning.
Girls were usually housewives are still are housewives in rural india where they do the entire household chores and living adjusting a joint family system. I know a teacher in my NGO who lives in a joint family with 21 members in it every morning she arranges the bed of all the members after they wake up, she washes the dishes, washes everyones clothes and the same dishes after the lunch and same dishes again after dinner.
She says she miscarried thrice because of excessive workload in the house. Men in the house usually dont talk with the woman and the final decision in the house is what mother in law, father in law and men decide.
In India there is tradition that woman eat food after the men have eaten and usually they have to eat in the same plate husband ate and in which leftovers are there.
Woman cannot go out of the house without asking the mother in law and my friend is there who faces same problem
One of my other friend has not seen a movie from many years, neither she is allowed to go on a vacation because her husband doesnt like those things.

The concept of marriage, love is different in India public display of affection is not allowed and like i said earlier husbands usually dont even talk with their wives

So the difference is probably because of cultural difference.


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18 Mar 2012, 10:59 am

I certainly couldn't go without having any contact with people. I have to have a few close friends. I'd rather have 4 quarters than a hundred pennies.



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18 Mar 2012, 12:51 pm

namaste wrote:
I had a arranged marriage. I live in India. Here in India parents fix up the marriage for their children
During the 50's-60's the boy and girl never even saw each other before marriage but now atleast they are shown the photos of each other or introduced to each other once before marriage is finalised.
Here the astrologer decides which girl is compatible for the boy based on after analyzing horoscope.
In India parents never hug or say I love you to their children. Usually parents are very strict and whatever they say a child as to listen
without questioning.
Girls were usually housewives are still are housewives in rural india where they do the entire household chores and living adjusting a joint family system. I know a teacher in my NGO who lives in a joint family with 21 members in it every morning she arranges the bed of all the members after they wake up, she washes the dishes, washes everyones clothes and the same dishes after the lunch and same dishes again after dinner.
She says she miscarried thrice because of excessive workload in the house. Men in the house usually dont talk with the woman and the final decision in the house is what mother in law, father in law and men decide.
In India there is tradition that woman eat food after the men have eaten and usually they have to eat in the same plate husband ate and in which leftovers are there.
Woman cannot go out of the house without asking the mother in law and my friend is there who faces same problem
One of my other friend has not seen a movie from many years, neither she is allowed to go on a vacation because her husband doesnt like those things.

The concept of marriage, love is different in India public display of affection is not allowed and like i said earlier husbands usually dont even talk with their wives

So the difference is probably because of cultural difference.


i see. wow...i seriously feel bad for you and that kind of culture you live in. i'm shocked that we're in the 21st century and people still treat women as low class or animals. what a shame!



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25 Mar 2012, 3:37 am

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i see. wow...i seriously feel bad for you and that kind of culture you live in. i'm shocked that we're in the 21st century and people still treat women as low class or animals. what a shame!


ya they do.
when i spoke up against my mother in law regarding her dowry demands she ostracised me, cut me off and is going around bad mouthing me just because i had guts to speak up against her.


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26 Mar 2012, 4:43 pm

I live alone, but I have family and friends back home. I also have lots of people around in the neighborhood, even if I don't talk to them because I don't know them very well. So yes, it's possible to live a life alone, but some social interaction is necessary for everybody.



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27 Mar 2012, 3:40 am

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okay. but no matter how or when you do interact with others you still won't have friends or lovers because of Autism/Asperger's, how can that be possible? aren't we condemned to be lonely because of our disability? isn't that what they're trying to say? sorry if i'm exaggerating.


I know it's hard. People with Asperger's Syndrome have an amygdala that is functionally and structurally dysfunctional and *might* have deformities in their frontal lobes. and as this study says we might have a small prefrontal cortex. Unfrotunately there is no surgery (and there will probably never be) that will "fix" your brain.

The only thing I do now is to try to be your own person and your own best friend. I know it's not very assuring and I know it's vague.

But you just have to live life as if you are the best human being on the planet. If you can't have a 200 friends on Facebook just let it be. I barely have any friends to add me on FB and no one bothers so I live everyday like I am a success.

I now always make it a point to start the conversation because nobody wants to start a conversation with me. A lot of girls and women have told someone else or me directly that they consider me good looking for example but after a while with them feel like I'm just weird or creepy and move away and dont talk to me again. I just let it go.

I know that loneliness is hard to cure without friendships of some sort. If no one is interested in getting to know you or if you have tried to get to know people better and they leave you or see you as just an acquaintance then I dont care. True it probably means we won't have many meaningful relationships and that's the hard part.

I have dealt with loneliness for a very long time and its really painful to look around and see people laughing with friends or talking to other people and posting pics of their experiences with each other on Facebook. I know it's something that I have always wanted to feel. But I know that deep down inside many people probably also desire to have our positive traits.

I wont let any disability or obstacle in life define who I am. The most important thing in life is to actually find yourself and thats a question that I dont know the answers to. It's not about how many people like you. Now I know we are wired to desire to be with other people and long for love and friendships and there will be a part of me that will never "be there" no matter how hard I try but I guess that there many people on Earth and chances are there are people here who are like you and understand your situation.

http://psychcentral.com/news/2012/03/26/number-of-friendships-linked-to-brain-size/36559.htmlNumber of Friendships Linked to Brain Size

By Traci Pedersen Associate News Editor
Reviewed by John M. Grohol, Psy.D. on March 26, 2012

If you have a lot of friends, then you most likely have a bigger orbital prefrontal cortex — a brain region found just above the eyes — according to a new study, part of the British Academy Centenary “Lucy to Language” project.

The research shows that in order to maintain several friendships (not acquaintances), it is necessary to use what social scientists refer to as “mentalizing” or “mind-reading” — the capacity to understand what another person is thinking. This skill is crucial in handling a complex social world, including the ability to hold a conversation.



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27 Mar 2012, 10:34 pm

I do live my life with little meaningful interaction, and I hate every moment of it.

I need a few people close to me. I have one, but he lives a hundred miles away.

My parents always told me, growing up, that if I continued to "act" or "be" the "way I am" then I would alienate everyone - friends, family, you name it - and be alone. They didn't know I had AS, but they were right anyway.

I've resigned myself to the fact that the huge list of things wrong with or different about me is preventing me from ever being fulfilled. I'll always be lonely and alone (which are different, by the way).

That said, it's totally possible. Not great, not enjoyable, but it's what you make of it. If you can tell yourself repeatedly that it's alright to be the way you are, then you can make the most of your situation regardless of how lonely you might be.

Me, I've given up...but then again, I have A LOT more than just AS. I'm taking the approach of waiting for people to come to me, and forgive me if I'm not entirely optimistic.



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28 Mar 2012, 12:12 am

We are people in condoms :S ok, bubbles sound prettier :p

Bubble people :D



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We are people in condoms :S

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28 Mar 2012, 6:00 pm

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knowing the fact that no one likes you or don't love you 'cos you're weird, can life be lived with little or no contact with people at all?


Absolutely. People on this planet have nothing positive about them anymore.


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