Identifying toxic/abusive people who are stealthy & complex

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That was rude and nasty what that chick did to you. I will never understand why people are that way.

Lady Elaine, she was really bad and she let me down many times including a party that I had invited to her to in which she promised to attend and help me with.

I doubt these people feel any shame. Ever hear of false self esteem?

Why else would they go to the trouble to hurt others? They want to make themselves feel better. Perhaps they want to hurt anyone in the "Aspie and Autistic" community because they think we are gullible so they can put themselves up.

Sociopaths lack a conscience. We are easy bait for them.

Can you elaborate? Is it as simple as being solely because we have issues with understanding social situations? My observations is that a target can be chosen without them having said anything. Just being in same room, basically the first impression so according to some sources as little as 7 seconds. I feel it is a bit longer(although could be due to having Aspergers) like 1-2 minutes or maybe longer in cases where your presence isn't expressly for the purpose of meeting this individual like an interview but rather simply sharing a room with several other people which could be scenarios such as first day at work on a new job, first day at college, moving into new apartment, starting a membership at a weight-room/gym/club/etc.

I would theorize that there is something else perhaps a propensity for psychological pain.



I've understood this in typical bullies but how would causing permanent life consequences up to and including death make them feel better about themselves? Do they keep "score" of those who had been "bullied to death"?

In general I would think that the easiest group to do this to would be the most vulnerable members of society which IMO would include: People with severe addictions to heavy narcotics such as opiates/Meth/Cocaine/Heroin/etc tend to have unstable psyches and have an obviously increased level of risk for psychosis, crime or suicide. Especially those who are homeless and furthermore in these cases it is far less likely that their actions will face recourse. The proverbial "fish in a barrel" would be someone who is both homeless and severely addicted to drugs, both qualities are also indicative of a higher probability of suffering from a mental illness when compared either to those without any addictions those with a stable home. If the criteria is social deficiency = not a human being in their eyes then there are also others who fulfill this criteria and who would be easier to target as well as avoid punishment.

If this is their modus operandi:
1. Identify a suitable target.
2. Carry out a schema of manipulation, disinformation, gaslighting, general abuse, general bullying tactics against the target.
3. Result: Death of target by suicide or violent crime; alternative result being life or very long term imprisonment. (RIP or "25 to Life")
4. Feeling of achieving one's complete Self/perfect Self/Zen/Nirvana/etc.

I would then conclude that, logically, the most efficient selection method would be choosing addicts and/or homeless people. Efficiency in this case referring to their perverse sense of justice.

I think it may sometimes be the opposite. Several times, I've seen trough duplicitous, sociopathic people, but others were fooled by them till too late. They may hate us aren't easy bait and can warn others.

How intriguing. So perhaps because we could be a threat to their operations?

I forgot about sociopaths and yes they are very dangerous because they can lie what research states, lie cooly and what's scary is that their lies are believable.

For instance, I heard a story of one who fell in love with a woman and told her he was a ceo of a company and was very well off. He asked her to marry him and while they were engaged, he told his company was in trouble and needed money. She gave him the money and he took it and ran.


I have also read that most sociopaths will ask you to do favors for them but they never do anything for you.

Other characteristics-
Their emotions are shallow but believable
In fact, they are actors where the world is a stage and others are players.

Of course they don't have consciences. How else could they act as they do?

Do they get angry when we are able to see through them? Absolutely.

Without a doubt, they can spot us quickly. The idea though is to stand your ground and call out their behavior.
For example. "I find you to be overbearing. Please back off." I said this to someone and I made sure someone else was in the room. That way you are showing that you are not going to tolerate someone following you around bossing you around.

I have no tolerance for nonsense. This person has a reputation of dominating any and all situations she is in. I don't care about that. I only care when it impacts me. Of course she had to say she means well. To that I said, " I'm sure you do however I'm not ok with you hovering over me while I do my job. Please respect that."

Have not had any further problems. Are we buddies? No. We make occasional small talk. I'm not interested in friendships with bullies.

History Gal, one time I forgot to make reservations for transportation to take me to work and the who girl, who I mentioned above was supposed to take off and she was mad at me. When I got to work, she tried to walk all over me by telling me to be quiet and I told her I was sorry.

"Yeah right! You just wanted to stay home and nod in a book all day."

I told her firmly, "That was an accident. Now I have been working here for 7 years and you will NOT talk to me like that."

Good going Twilight! People need to be put in place.

Agreed! I wish to study their methods for the purposes of easily identifying and negating their stunts.

I am convinced that these sort of people are just an outright enemy of people with Aspergers and I want to do whatever I can to become as close to immune as possible or perhaps turn the tables.

I identify them quite well these days.

Preston,
For a while, she latched herself onto me and pretended to be my friend but that was only so she could find reasons to make fun of me and lie about me to others. Once I found out her true colors from other people, I just made the decision to stop talking to her unless it was work related. Otherwise, I was either quiet when I worked with her (which was awkward) or I put my headphones (Which helped). In the long run, her gossip stopped. I also learned not to talk about her to anyone because I knew that she would use that against me. In other words, I stopped giving her power in which things got better. Then a few months later, she quit and I was happy.

Not giving toxic/abusive people power is a great strategy. They can't stand it when we don't feed into their s**t.