Do you feel like no one accepts you for who you are?

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HarryofSheringham
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11 Nov 2005, 2:40 pm

I feel that my friends accept me for who i am, and that everyone else really wouldnt care about me enough to have any opinion on me. More importantly than anything, I am comfortable with who i am, so i dont really care what others think about me.



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13 Nov 2005, 1:27 am

I think i amuse people to such a degree that they build a frame of reference through which they can accept me. So all the negative parts like me being nearly athiestic, appearing almost sociopathic in my judgement of good and evil, being hedonistic, ect get transformed into more acceptable beliefs in their minds.

So essentially, no i don't think anybody accepts me as i truely am, but i don't need them to. As long as i accept myself s'all good.


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13 Nov 2005, 2:44 am

Nomaken wrote:
appearing almost sociopathic in my judgement of good and evil, being hedonistic

So you don't make a moral distinction between right and wrong in behavior? You prefer to go with whatever happens to feel good in the moment and to use people to fulfill whatever desire you happen to wish fulfilled?

I believe that simplistic morality such as never lie does not allow consideration for the pecularities of individual cases and that a person can never know the full range of positive and negative consequences of a particular course of behavior, but this leaves some room for what consideration a person makes of others when choosing how to live. Completing disregarding how other people might react in pursuit of a person's own goals is the hallmark of sociopathy. I certainly hope you're not saying such is almost your sense of morality.



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13 Nov 2005, 6:07 am

I don't judge something as being good or evil. No matter what the masses think of it. Although how i act is different from how i judge. I am kind to people purely for my own pleasure. But i also believe everyone does that and they just arent aware of it. But it ends up looking like i am a very nice person. Like i don't consider hitler evil, or ted bundy evil. Just because i do not want to be rejected from human societies do i humor them on "proper" ways of acting. Although i consider all morality to be subjective.


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13 Nov 2005, 1:41 pm

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I don't judge something as being good or evil. No matter what the masses think of it. Although how i act is different from how i judge. I am kind to people purely for my own pleasure. But i also believe everyone does that and they just arent aware of it. But it ends up looking like i am a very nice person. Like i don't consider hitler evil, or ted bundy evil. Just because i do not want to be rejected from human societies do i humor them on "proper" ways of acting. Although i consider all morality to be subjective.

In my ethics class, the textbooks go down hard on ethical subjectivism and cultural relativism, the two main varieties of ethical relativism. Basically, subjectivism isn't universifiable because, if everyone behaved according only to their whims, society would quickly fall apart. I have some qualms about universifiability, but it at least gives an approximate sense to the validity of a moral idea. I am of the notion that different groups of people need somewhat different sets of morality to live as who they are. Not everyone is meant to be a masochistic saint.



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13 Nov 2005, 4:00 pm

Strangely enough I feel like most people accept me for who I am EXCEPT for myself.



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14 Nov 2005, 6:52 pm

I know the feeling. I feel that way sometimes, however, most of the time I'm very hard on myself. A fact a few of my friends remind me about! But when you feel trapped by people and their misconceptions it feels really bad!! But most of the time I feel glad that I do have friends who love me for who I am and who I can become.


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21 Nov 2005, 12:51 am

Sometimes I do. I feel that some people don't accept my Quirks. I feel that some people don't accept my Accent. I feel that some people don't accept my Likes and Dislikes, and I feel that there are some people who don't accept my Emotions. It depends on who I'm with. There are also people who can't accept the fact that I'm a very bright Lady, they think I'm a ret*d Loser instead. It depends on who I'm with and the time of Day/Month/Year. I feel the most accepted during the month of December and the least accepted on Canada Day. The reason I mention Canada Day is because, if Anglomania was an Illness, I would be the very first Patient to be diagnosed. I wore my Union Jack Austin Powers T-Shirt, this past Canada Day. I accept everything about myself and I'm taking the steps to give myself the love that I've never felt that I was given in the Past.



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21 Nov 2005, 7:03 am

Crack, I tend to feel the same. Being a perfectionist, I'm often very hard on myself and it is a habit I must work hard to break.

I do believe there is good and evil and what Ted Bundy and Hitler did was evil. I can't believe anybody would think it wasn't bad to kill and torture people.


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21 Feb 2006, 2:00 am

When I was in High School, I was a pretty weird kid and became weirder as I got older, in early part of high school age 13-15 I was a typical science fiction geek and then I became a total politics nerd from 15 to 18. Apart from the teachers I felt nobody really liked me, in the early part of high school they publically made their dislike of me known in beating me up, in the latter part they made fun of me behind their backs.

This was made worse, that I was all intense purposes conservative, straight laced, square kind of guy (a typical 50's nerd) in a school filled in assorted misfits. I was totally disinterested in cars, music (other than classical which I still love), parties and girls.

After high school until around now I became very socially withdrawn, but I began to change my personality that I would not become the sort of person I was in high school and I think I will pay off results in the future. I am still afraid of being totally myself in front of other people. I'm constantly fighting my inner self which is of a absent, dreamy minded professor and turning myself into an slightly nerd, outdoors kind of guy who listens to alternative rock.



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26 Feb 2006, 1:10 pm

My wife and her family and a few close friends accept me as I am. And thats all I need!

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26 Feb 2006, 1:55 pm

I think a few of my friends and some of my family accept the way i am but in all honesty i don't care what people think of me, i'm happy enough with who i am. Though i reckon a lot of that could change if i told them of the possibility i might have AS, hence why i haven't and probably never will tell them.



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26 Feb 2006, 7:54 pm

I think that theory that if everyone behaved according to their own whims society would fall apart is BS. People already behave according to their own whims, but when one persons whim is "If you behave in such and such way i'm gonna call the cops on you" the other person will have strong incentive to tailor their whims to continue survival. Peoples whims have developed in such a way that society can continue to exist. Cops aren't all atruistic martyrs that know they must enforce the law so that the society can continue to function, but they regret having to suppress peoples desires. They all have their own beliefs and selfish desires that the law enforcement organization channels to work for society.

Even in a theoretical small society, of like 100 people if everyone behaved according to their whims, there'd be a few days of people dicking around, then when the food supply was threatened they'd start arguing, there'd be a night of people killing each other and a gang would form on a leader, and a new government and society would be established.


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27 Feb 2006, 3:41 am

SpaceCase wrote:
BUT...my PARENTS on the other hand are a different matter...they can't accpet the
fact that I'm a bisexual Goth.They're like,"Homosexuals are going to hell,and goths are evil."I told them,"Just because you wear all black doesn't mean you're evil!GET OVER IT!And just WHAT makes you think God hates us homosexuals?He loves EVERYBODY!"(I'm a Gothic Christian.)Thye're still an issue.

Sooooo...what about y'all?Do you feel like you can't be accepted as yuo are?Stories welcome.

-SpaceCase :)


This is not an abstract question but what is defined as a Christian? Someone who believes just only believe in Jesus and God, someone who follows some of the bible(maybe excluding the old testiment) or someone who follows all of the bible.There are many rule in bible that has been either broken because it is in practical to follow because they would break many law in most democratic countries or ignore because of more liberal thinking.

There is no rule that would dictate what rules should be followed literally and one that should not be taken literally.

It is said and generally excepted that one should not have sex before marriage, but oohh no now the hypocritical NTs want to have their fornication and dictating to you that you should not commit acts of homosexuality.

Don’t confuse me with a liberal or someone who wants to be considered fair. If you believe in god, then you must except the fact that there is a War fought against the Evil and it is your job to help out any way you can and any thought of fairness should not compromise the war efforts in favour of the Evil.