Do you think the way NTs socialize is beautiful?

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11 Jun 2013, 1:02 am

No "The Mass" is disgusting!



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11 Jun 2013, 4:51 pm

Not really no, it's like when I see a antropology documentary with some odd cultural thing in it. It's just what they do.



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11 Jun 2013, 10:18 pm

I admire the "social interactions" in movies and television show(not reality). In particular the sad scenes show the intimacy between people, and how attach we can possibly get to one another is remarkable even though, sometimes I don't understand it. Human interactions have the possibility to become something more than just garbled sounds which apes make to each other. It shows us a connection that surpass time and space. An incredible idea and as in the movie V for Vendetta "Ideas are bulletproof".


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11 Jun 2013, 10:42 pm

As soem other people haev mentioned, most socialisationn I see done by neurotupical people is generaly manipulativ and disgenuine so it frankly disgsts me, far from beutiful. Im generaly the person my acquaintancces can coem to and talk abuot anythng with becuse they know Im not liekly to tell anyone, and I wtch these saem people socialise with others, and usualy theyll "grin" and be so poliet to somone and as soon as thy aer goen they might say soemthing dirty or mean abuot the person who just left, which boggles me becuse it is so dishonest and maeks me trust them less becuse they liekly do the same to me and therefoer cant truly be my friend. They go thruogh such pain stakin measuers to "keep the peace" and in th process sacrifiec their integrity and honour, and makes me ill. I will take honest and hennce abrasive and socily-maladapted any day over that.


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12 Jun 2013, 5:17 pm

It's fascinating, I agree. But there's place for different kinds of minds in the world, and there's no point in beating yourself up about not being able to do this. Self-acceptance is crucial.


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12 Jun 2013, 10:53 pm

They send off this vibe, sort of electric and fluid when they socialize.
I can't say if it's beautiful or anything. Just saying.


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12 Jun 2013, 10:55 pm

I see it the way I see wolves working together to take down a moose. It's natural and instinctive and intriguing.

It's certainly not beautiful. I envy them this easy process that they are ignorant to. They most likely think they're individually special.



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13 Jun 2013, 12:18 am

Many NTs talk to each other in a way I've never been spoken to in my entire life. Some people, especially young, professional females, talk to each other in a slightly hushed tone (and the content is usually very personal...or gossip) -- you can tell by the tone that the words are only meant for that person and no one else.

I've never been able to master that muted, hushed tone. Then people put a certain educated flair to their voice, speak with a cultured accent, an affectation. I just don't get how people do this.



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13 Jun 2013, 12:38 am

Fascinating, yes. Beautiful? I don't think so.
I do like observing people and how they interact though, I find them to be fascinating, the way they make small talk, and can go on and on about a very trivial thing like weather. I learn a lot from them, I came up with set of responses that I can use when I interact with people. Many people who know me actually think I'm social, which is a good thing.


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13 Jun 2013, 2:55 am

infilove wrote:
This might sound a little bit silly but I truely believe this: when I watch and listen to NT's socialize, I almost think it's beautiful -how they approach people they know or don't know to strike a conversation, the way their conversations flow from one topic to another, and how this is all done with such grace. Especially listening to older women talk. It's almost like listening to pretty jazz or classical music. Do you think that too?


:thumbdown: No that BS hurts my brain.

:mrgreen: "Hi"
:D "Oh, hi."
:mrgreen: "How are you doing?"
:D "I'm doing alright. How about you?"
:mrgreen: "Not too bad. The weather is great isn't it?"
:D "Yes. It's absolutely beautiful today."
:mrgreen: "I wish it was like this more frequently."
:D "Me too."
:mrgreen: "Well I'll see you next time."
:D "Sure. Bye."


Repeat five billion times. :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:



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15 Jun 2013, 2:46 pm

From my observation of NTs socializing, they are deceitful with each other. they talk & smile with a person & then say negative things about them to someone else.



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16 Jun 2013, 10:02 pm

henryd wrote:
Steinhauser wrote:
Human conversation is a complex, interwoven, reciprocal exchange of both rational ideas and irrational instincts. Overt communication (speech, gestures) convey concrete details, in the exact same space and time as subliminal signals (subtle stuff like eye contact) transmit a wealth of emotional information that words alone cannot.


As an NT, I'm happy to read that - very well explained, Steinhauser. It bothers me sometimes that 'Aspies' consider small talk as meaningless, but in these at first sight mundane conversations there's a lot of information exchange that allows people to learn about how the other thinks, reacts, feels, what he or she likes and so on. In that way you get to know someone and that is necessary to build the trust you need to establish a friendship or whatever kind of relationship. So we're not alwaysso superficial as it might appear to an Aspie mind.


It looks like there's a lot of sour grapes mentality here. I know I get frustrated and impatient with it but I don't see it as meaningless. Small talk is just a means to an end in my mind, not something enjoyable in and of itself. It's something you have to get through before you can get comfortable enough to have more substantial conversation. I generally would prefer getting to know people the way children do, naturally through shared activities in which you learn little bits at a time, rather than having to process everything at once while standing around talking.

One thing that does bug me about NT interaction is the tendency to socialize with a ton of disrupting background noise and activity. I manage to do okay in quiet low-anxiety environments. Most NTs make too much damn noise and commotion that puts me on edge.