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Jamieohs
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30 Dec 2015, 10:06 am

Pretty much describes me perfectly, never had any real friends through school, was always the loner. There's a few people I "hang out" with in college but i wouldn't exactly call them friends, I genuinely couldn't give a f*ck and I prefer being by myself anyway.


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30 Dec 2015, 11:13 am

Ditto here. I haven't had friends since high school and I'm 34. When I was your age I wanted friendship badly, but after years of repeated rejection for being "too different" I stopped caring about it. It was a rough 2-3 years coming to terms, very suicidal, very depressed, just not good. That being said, I'm very glad I did it and survived it, I know I don't actually need people to survive and enjoy life now. I'm male though, society doesn't expect us to be pillars of socialization like they do females, my path was very difficult, with society's expectations yours may be even harder.

I always found it ironic that I'm well versed in dozens of subjects (my special interests) and yet can't hold a conversation with an NT for more than 5 minutes.
Example--
Me: Paleontologists discovered a new dinosaur called Dreadnoughtus that's the largest dinosaur ever unearthed. It will change the way we think about weight mechanics in animal life.

Other person: That's great. How about that weather, it sure is cold isn't it?

Me: um yeah it's cold, we all have thermosensory receptors, we all feel cold, was there an underlying point to that statement?

Other person: just making small talk, don't be so uptight. Did you see the new Avenger's movie, it was awesome?

Me: ...yes, I was socially obligated to see it, and I thought there was no character development to draw me in, but it wasn't bad.

Other person: No it was great, they had all kinds of cool explosions and special fx. You're stupid.

So, when I came to realize that conversation was about as deep it was going to get with my sister species I realized it really wasn't worth my time. Since then life has been a lot less stressful. I grew up with the concept that everyone could think, and think deeply, and that the people that didn't understand just hadn't grown up enough yet to use their brain power to it's fullest extent. I realize now that humans are just dumb animals, and it's best to treat them as such.

They will respond just like dogs will. If the human is panting and begging, constantly by your side that means it wants a treat-- so if the human is female you find something about her appearance and compliment it, and it's male you mention how strong he is. When you first meet another human you need to sniff their butt to tell if they're the "same" as you, so you talk about the weather, and fake interest in the latest sh***y movie. This will show that you can be one of their "pack". It's really very inane and a waste of time imo, but the vast majority of humans still need those animal cues to operate. Add in that society trains people to respond to instinct, not thought, and it's easy to see why humanity has such dire problems...ugh, so glad I live out in the boonies and completely insulated from it all, mostly.



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30 Dec 2015, 11:17 am

^ Sounds familiar.



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30 Dec 2015, 11:38 am

Yigeren

I will warn you I am probably one of those stupid people, so sorry.

I wanted to reply just because something you said and someone elses comments struck a chord. I have aspergers and anxiety and my 16 year old daughter, my 12 yer old son and my daughters 17 year old boyfriend all have apergers and anxiety.

the boyfriend was offended the other day because my wife told him he could not watch a DVD without my son, we were all watching it as a family. He kind of ran off angry then we heard him and my daughter in an intense discussion in the other room.
I went in to talk to them and found out that he was upset with himself because he was feeling manipulative.
I know sometimes I get anxious and out of sorts, especially when I am tired and all the logic and structure I have tried to apply to figure out how to relate to people just goes out the door and I am totally illogical emotionally. This makes me hold on to the basest of emotions like disappointment, anger, offense, jealousy.
I think that you maybe are being too hard on yourself saying you dont have friends. I am assuming you have associates and family who like you (and probably love you)
If not, that does not mean you cant establish those relations over time.
Just be aware of who you are and your challenges.
There are times when I think I would like to be more social and more liked. But then I start to get "popular" and I realize what a pain in the butt it is. But you, I, we all need to walk the middle ground we feel comfortable with. it might mean a handful of people we trust and are comfortable around and a lot of very casual acquaintances.
It sounds like you have a limited number of things you like. My wife has some similar interests. Maybe if you can find over time some people who you share one or two interests with and make some effort to cultivate those interests, but not press to be a great all around best buddy, then over time you can build up relationships. Just dont put the bar too high or the deadlines for success to short time wise.
I hate to use the limitations word, but realize your limitations and arrange your social life to live within that range. Exult in who you are and go to whatever event or form of socialization you feel comfortable with (but only as long as you feel comfortable) then when you are alone celebrate who you are.
I think if you are comfortable with who you are and you grow a little every day people will see what a treasure you are, even if it is only a small piece of who you are.



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31 Dec 2015, 12:01 am

I actually don't have any friends. I stopped working when I became ill. So I just stopped talking to everyone I worked with.

I wasn't friends with them outside of work, but most seemed to think I was ok, once they got to know me. Some people hated me at first and then really liked me.

I have family, a bf, and that's it. I am really unusual. Most people find me to be strange and don't know what to think of me. At least that's what I've been told. Once people "get" me, then they tolerate me much better.

I have to learn how to be less abrasive and direct, I think. I'm actually not a bad person and have some positive qualities so perhaps I'm not a lost cause.



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31 Dec 2015, 1:59 am

I have no friend I have no one corresponding with via any media and I've found freedom and peace. I've tried not to make one. I rarely feel lonely. I have some acquaintances..


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31 Dec 2015, 4:30 pm

So I guess I'm not the only one who didn't get invited to a new years eve party?

Well I sort of got myself invited to one at the last minute but it's not my thing, involves clubbing and then an afterparty and all the details are unknown. I don't want to quiz the guy for details only to decide I don't want to go. It's probably not the best circumstances for me to meet his friends for the first time. I'll probably just stay home.



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31 Dec 2015, 5:51 pm

Oh yeah...I'm never invited anywhere. Even when I was young.



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31 Dec 2015, 5:53 pm

Yeah, I was always the person who invited people to come over. I was never invited anywhere.



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05 Jan 2016, 8:14 pm

I didn't have any friends then I found myself a best friend in someone I valued highly as a friend only for her to tell me I was bringing her down last year and now im back to being friendless.



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06 Jan 2016, 12:54 pm

I have gone most of my life friend-less. By a stroke of incredible luck last year I found my soulmate who only has one friend that she hardly ever sees. I had pretty much giving up all hope of finding ANYONE but things are going well. Not only that but her entire family treats me like one of their own.

I don't know how I could have gotten through the last three years without the WP community. Feels like the only place outside of my immediate family (and possibly work) where I am actually treated well.



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06 Jan 2016, 1:03 pm

GiantHockeyFan wrote:
I don't know how I could have gotten through the last three years without the WP community. Feels like the only place outside of my immediate family (and possibly work) where I am actually treated well.

Well damn, I guess I just didn't try hard enough. :twisted:



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07 Jan 2016, 1:20 am

I think the key to having friends my be to find other eccentric/odd/unusual people, that also are not mentally ill.



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07 Jan 2016, 3:28 am

Drawyer wrote:
I have no friend I have no one corresponding with via any media and I've found freedom and peace. I've tried not to make one. I rarely feel lonely. I have some acquaintances..


i hear ya DY. beside my GF and one other person i talk to through email it's safe to say i have no other friends. i like it that way. have some acquaintances scattered around.

Grammar Geek wrote:
Yeah, I was always the person who invited people to come over. I was never invited anywhere.


were you ever a "tag along"?


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07 Jan 2016, 3:56 am

Being on the spectrum counts as mentally ill, doesn't it?


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07 Jan 2016, 4:02 am

i wouldn't say, that...


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