Your views on Goths

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It's a song about goths and other people who dress in black and wear too much make-up.
I personally don't care how people dress, but have found that most "gothey" people are quite nice to me (I think it's because I'm considered a "genuine oddball" and that's what many strive to be, but I've yet to test this theory).

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Meh, depends how you define "goth". If you're referring to the "goths" who fit into the original subculture then yes I usually like them (though there aren't too many of them it seems), can relate, like the music etc. As for mallgoths, (the obnoxious Insane Clown Posse-listening sort) not so much. I don't want to sound like an elitist, but it annoys me when some kid rattles on and on about how "mainstream" music sucks, and hate someone for not liking Marilyn Manson, proudly deeming their taste in music "goth"-- yet they have no idea who the actual goth/deathrock bands were, like Bauhaus or Siouxsie & the Banshees or Rozz Williams.

Mainly it's just the word Goth that I have a problem with, since it has such a negative connotation now.. I mean, the "old-school" gothic subculture isn't completely dead yet, but few people even acknowledge its existence (not that I blame them; there's plenty of subcultures that I'm ignorant about probably). And definitions do change with time.. sigh. It only becomes an issue when I'm decked out in my 'goth clothes' (though they're not usually from hot topic) and people automatically assume that I am a baby-eating satanist.

So yeah. As for the bratty goth.. Lots of those went to my high school. And many of them were just painfully stupid-- conforming to noncomformity despite everything they preach. ugh, I especially hated that t-shirt that said "You laugh because I'm different, I laugh because you're all the same"
...yes.. all the same eh.. Just like you and all your friends. Bah.

Goth girls have a special appeal to me, as long as they haven't stuffed their face full of about three billion spiky bits of metal.

Goth boys trying to look like Goth girls? Not so much...

The "trendy goths" are the ones that all seem to get into it in highschool and then hop into the club/concert scene when they turn 18 years of age. these are the annoying ones, usually. They only do it because it's the "in" thing to do. They often don't know any of the music or appreciate anything at all.
Good news--- they don't last long. Some other trend will catch them and they'll leave.

Also--- when did Insane Clown Posse become "goth"? I think they belong in a different category. They can be quite funny. But not "goth".

I like Goths; if I had any interest gothic music and gothic literature (beyond a couple of f**ked up comic books) then I would seriously consider joining the subculture. I have a friend who is a Goth and I have been with her to a couple of clubs. All of the Goths I have met seem to enjoy sitting around talking about vampires, and as I have little interest in vampires beyond the Buffy series, I didn't really fit in.

I dressed in an overtly gothic way for a period of a few moths this summer; complete with black nail polish, and I was referred to as a Goth a few times by members of the public (usually in a derogatory fashion), but nothing really came of it.

I still dress in my "Van Helsing" outfit when I go out, although I'm not certain if it would qualify as Gothic.

I don't like labels,but goths seem pretty cool. LOVE the style of dress,and I did used to dress like a "goth",before I came up with my own style.

Now,people think I'm a hippie just because I like baggy clothes and don't shave my armpits.


-SpaceCase

well, we don't bite...

Yes, we are decent individuals like everybody else. Your mom's quite silly. I don't go to clubs though. If they got Xasthur or Nargaroth to play, I might go, but they keep spinning music I don't like (techno bands like Combichrist are the worst offenders IMO).

I really don't care either way. It's just another clique.

I have a very complicated view of them.

I identify with the subculture. I consider myself gothic. Sort of. Kind of. XD But I also hate a lot of things that some goths love, such as Bauhaus or BDSM. I also have serious geeky elements and what not, so I'm not sure I could call myself a "goth," exactly.

I often like a lot of things that are associated with goths by the media but most goths don't necessarily like being associated with. XD So I guess I like the stuff that it's stereotypical for goths to like. I even like some stuff that most goths actually DO like. I love the fashion style (and wish I could partake in it, but it's not that simple--good goth clothes for guys are quite hard to find, are not always comfortable, and are often way too expensive).

As for goths as people, well, it varies quite a bit. Some are very nice. Some are cold as can be. I often feel like I'm just not cool enough to hang out with them. I tend to not like goth guys, who can often be achingly elitist, and as for goth girls, that depends if they're the cool kind or the cold/bitchy/sadistic kind. Plus, most goth girls where I live are either far too old for me (like in their 30's), or taken, or quite frankly fat. Usually 2 or 3 of those.

This stinks, because I'm basically obsessed with the idea of dating a compassionate, attractive gothic girl...it's practically a fetish. If a girl isn't gothic I have MUCH less of a chance of being romantically interested in her. I can't help it. I just love the look. I think there's nothing hotter than a goth girl in a black corseted Victorian-era dress, with black lipstick and eyeliner, skin pale as can be, decadently-detailed hair...though, she'd obviously have to have a decent face and body and all that or it just comes across as an ugly person trying to be hot and just seeming uglier. XD