Do you think most people are annoying?
"You are the smartest person I know"
"You are the most flexible person I know"
This one, an aikido instructor had the nerve to tell me. Four times in a row. He acted like he did me a personal favor by telling me
Ah yes, the 'compliment', usually given with no real emotional attachment to what was just said and used predominately to soften an ensuing request/demand. I started tuning those out at about age 10 when it was apparent to me that about 90% of them were just manipulatory in nature. I'd rather cut to the chase: "What is it that you want? Good, then start with that next time." If I'm not friends with a person, or just don't really like them much, or care about the devious little plots they're trying to involve me in, I'll turn into the 'dragon lady' from Mr. Robot and point out that time is always flowing, each second is precious, I'm allotting you a mere 30 seconds of mine so make it quick we're down to 25 now.
"You are the smartest person I know"
"You are the most flexible person I know"
This one, an aikido instructor had the nerve to tell me. Four times in a row. He acted like he did me a personal favor by telling me
Ah yes, the 'compliment', usually given with no real emotional attachment to what was just said and used predominately to soften an ensuing request/demand. I started tuning those out at about age 10 when it was apparent to me that about 90% of them were just manipulatory in nature. I'd rather cut to the chase: "What is it that you want? Good, then start with that next time." If I'm not friends with a person, or just don't really like them much, or care about the devious little plots they're trying to involve me in, I'll turn into the 'dragon lady' from Mr. Robot and point out that time is always flowing, each second is precious, I'm allotting you a mere 30 seconds of mine so make it quick we're down to 25 now.
I dig the dragon lady response.
Trojanofpeace
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Joined: 30 Dec 2017
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 65
Location: Honalee
I try and focus on what i or they need to achieve. There are all sorts of social niceties that seem pointless and annoying. But that's not the point, some people really like/need them. If i don't accomodate it (no matter how annoying) then I'm just creating a whole load of additonal barriers to life. If you can't beat them, join them. Or exist outside of it all. However, creatures that live outside the tribe, don't last long.
"You are the smartest person I know"
"You are the most flexible person I know"
This one, an aikido instructor had the nerve to tell me. Four times in a row. He acted like he did me a personal favor by telling me
Ah yes, the 'compliment', usually given with no real emotional attachment to what was just said and used predominately to soften an ensuing request/demand. I started tuning those out at about age 10 when it was apparent to me that about 90% of them were just manipulatory in nature. I'd rather cut to the chase: "What is it that you want? Good, then start with that next time." If I'm not friends with a person, or just don't really like them much, or care about the devious little plots they're trying to involve me in, I'll turn into the 'dragon lady' from Mr. Robot and point out that time is always flowing, each second is precious, I'm allotting you a mere 30 seconds of mine so make it quick we're down to 25 now.
I dig the dragon lady response.
Yeah, if you've never seen the series, she's the leader of an internet 'terrorist hacking' group, when people meet with her they have to jump through all kinds of hoops to see her (blindfolded car rides, long elevator rides, hidden doors, etc) and then when they meet her, she gives them the entire time is precious speech and gives them like 60 seconds to explain themselves. The irony is delicious.
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Trojan of peace
You hit the nail on the head.
Cisgender neurotypicals are the majority. Transgender autistics are the minority.
In history, there have been times when the minority won a competition against the majority and changed protocol. Legal or social. (Fine)
But that takes a lot of energy. And sometimes it is too idealistic.
The minority has to live their lives too. Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
Political justice could be on your "to do" list. And, once in a while, with a lot of energy, you might be successful (fine)
But success is not guaranteed to the person with the moral high road
For example, in 2006 ucsd, I became the first transgender in the wrong lockerroom at Ucsd. San Diego was so homophobic. According to the Dean of the school
Social justice (fine)
But, after 2006, articles claim that, some colleges took legal action against transgender students for going into the wrong lockerroom
One such student got a 600 fine, expelled, charged with trespassing, disorderly conduct
Seamus Johnston
So, if the school were to have filled criminal charges against me, then I would have had to hire a lawyer
Some lawsuits take over two years
Some lawyers charge 600 bucks an hour
Subpoenaed to court
Time, $$, energy
No guaranteed verdict
So
Big deal
The current counselor told me that I was similar to Rosa Parks, in that Rosa allegedly refused to get up from the "whites only" seat on the bus, got sent to jail. Montgomery bus boycott. And now more "whites only" seats on the bus.
(Fine)
While I went into the wrong lockerroom, the swimming pool staff wrote a letter to the Dean of the school about how the pool staff had a problem with it. And then the outcome was a new policy that transgender students can use any lockerroom
But all that effort did not make anyone, besides the pool staff, less homophobic
So was it worth the effort?
That is subjective
There is something wrong with everything
I can only tolerate certain types of people, especially right now and at any other given time. If they learn to play nice it normally sets the tone for future discussions. The ones who moan and irritate me based on things they have no pride in and don't understand, belittle the mind of virtue and concept, and generally push my buttons in public, are the ones I'm most likely to steer away from. One thing I've learnt is that you can answer a notion, even when it remains invalid to someone's point but you can't argue the feeling that you've said something wrong.
History gal
Yes, but your profile says you live in Orlando. Right now I live too far away to take the bus to the lockerroom at the gym you go to.
When I was 15 to 21, I loved going to the gym. After that, do not want to go anymore.
But it sounds like we are writing at cross purposes.
The reason why I wrote the previous post, was to answer Trojan of Peace's post, which said that if you can't beat them, join them. Or live outside it all. But creatures that live outside it all don't last long.
Even though I have tried, for a long time, to live outside it all, I completely agree with Trojan of peace.
The reason why I brought up the ucsd lockerroom, was that (in that instance), in a way, I "beat them", so I did not have to join them or live outside it all.
However, that was an isolated incident.
In almost all other situations, the other party outnumbers and overpowers me.
Even in the ucsd situation, when I "beat them", it took a lot of energy for a little reward. And the outcome was not guaranteed.
So en afterward, I doubt it was worth all that energy it required.
The current counselor told me that that was "setting a precedent". (Fine)
But I almost had to hire a lawyer for two years and pay 600 bucks per hour. And get subpoenaed to court.
Looking back maybe I should have just stopped going to the lockerroom
they say "can you", as if, if you "can," then you must and you will.
sometimes they say "you need to", as if it's a fact. but it's just an order. and sometimes they do not have the authority to do so.
sometimes they act like they are so cute, funny, wise, smart, cool, and awesome. one boy said "morning", and i answered "morning". "morning", he repeated. "morning", i echoed. "morning, morning, morning", he kept singing. (rolls eyes). but, a couple of other times, he had the nerve to grunt "what?" when i said something. so, i thought he did not hear me say "morning" the first time. and that he was going to have the nerve to accuse me of being "disrespectful". neurotypical extroverts.
sometimes they have the nerve to judge, almost constantly. they comment on so many things, you would imagine how they got their mouths so hardworking. comment on your clothes, your hair, your posture, your voice. ex. "it bothers me her voice sounds like that." as if, she had a moral right to veto anything that "bothers" her. it's like - maybe it "bothers" her (and precious lil "people"), when i continue living, then what? maybe it "bothers" me when they say "what" instead of "excuse me?".
"bothers"? "uncomfortable"? "don't like"? "would rather not have"?
too far gone
beyond repair
lost cause
many times when they did something wrong, they do not apologize. and sometimes when they do apologize, an apology is not enough. they rarely make sufficient reparations.
some of them pound impatiently on the bathroom door.
when they make a positive judgment ("i know you're smart",) they tell me in that condescending, indulgent tone. even though she was only 2 years older and not much more educated than me. and she was on duty too. and i was not on duty. she acted like she did me a significant favor, and that i just had to believe whatever she told me.
when they make a negative judgment ("you go around all slumped over"), they act like they have a moral right for you to apologize and fix it, to their satisfaction. immediately, permanently, drastically, cheerfully.
when they do "help" you, they act like they deserve credit for successfully dragging your worthless corpse out of a burning building.
Most of my socialising is on Facebook, Twitter and online games so I find the way people act and talk to be very annoying. It's hard to explain but they don't put much thought into things before they reply. They're often emotionally reactive and communicate through memes and gifs instead of words. The fact most of them make fun of autism doesn't make things any easier.
I just want to have open and in depth conversations with people. My sister is no better. It's really hard to have a conversation with her because she is very biased and dismisses anything I try to say.
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