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13 Jan 2016, 2:52 pm

I like you too, Yingeren!



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13 Jan 2016, 5:16 pm

I find that in general, women don't like me either...so i have this feeling that we might get along or at least enjoy chatting once in a while. You will likely find the occasional pm from me in your inbox. :) I have been accused of being too blunt or too direct as well--but subtle goes way over my head. I don't know how to be less direct. I guess women don't like that so well. But i truly never mean to hurt anyone's feelings and i do my best to be as tactful as i know how. I guess this is one of the areas where my best just simply isn't good enough for most people. ouch.


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13 Jan 2016, 5:54 pm

^Haha, I was really blunt today with a salesman. I could tell he was thrown off. Sometimes I have no patience for pointless social interactions. I wasn't rude, but I didn't b.s. either.

I've decided that I don't necessarily care about being blunt, if it isn't being rude. Being blunt can really make things more efficient.

You can PM me whenever you want. So can anyone who finds me tolerable. I generally think most people on here are cool. Some people are a little unusual, and hard to figure out, but I am also unusual.



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13 Jan 2016, 5:55 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I like you too, Yingeren!


Thank you, I like you too :)



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13 Jan 2016, 7:22 pm

Yigeren wrote:
^Haha, I was really blunt today with a salesman. I could tell he was thrown off. Sometimes I have no patience for pointless social interactions. I wasn't rude, but I didn't b.s. either.

I've decided that I don't necessarily care about being blunt, if it isn't being rude. Being blunt can really make things more efficient.

You can PM me whenever you want. So can anyone who finds me tolerable. I generally think most people on here are cool. Some people are a little unusual, and hard to figure out, but I am also unusual.


Hahaha! My technique with phone sales people: (all in one breath, one sentence, very sweet tone of voice) "Oh, I'm sorry, this is a really bad time for me to talk or spend any money, you have a good day, goodbye now." *hangs up phone* Whole process takes less than 5 seconds, kids snickering in background. I feel this is polite--my tone of voice oozes sweetness, so that makes it polite right?-- but i guess it is a little blunt. It is extremely efficient.


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13 Jan 2016, 7:25 pm

probly.an.aspie wrote:
Yigeren wrote:
^Haha, I was really blunt today with a salesman. I could tell he was thrown off. Sometimes I have no patience for pointless social interactions. I wasn't rude, but I didn't b.s. either.

I've decided that I don't necessarily care about being blunt, if it isn't being rude. Being blunt can really make things more efficient.

You can PM me whenever you want. So can anyone who finds me tolerable. I generally think most people on here are cool. Some people are a little unusual, and hard to figure out, but I am also unusual.


Hahaha! My technique with phone sales people: (all in one breath, one sentence, very sweet tone of voice) "Oh, I'm sorry, this is a really bad time for me to talk or spend any money, you have a good day, goodbye now." *hangs up phone* Whole process takes less than 5 seconds, kids snickering in background. I feel this is polite--my tone of voice oozes sweetness, so that makes it polite right?-- but i guess it is a little blunt. It is extremely efficient.
You're a lot nicer than I am. Their technique now is to never stop talking. So, when they start they get a variation on this:
"You're a salesman, I'm not interested, don't call back and don't pretend you didn't hear me because I will report the number. *click*". And, they never stop talking that whole time.


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13 Jan 2016, 8:25 pm

I just hang up on them, usually.



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13 Jan 2016, 8:58 pm

I look at the caller ID. If I don't recognize the phone number, or the number is blocked, I don't answer.



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13 Jan 2016, 10:05 pm

probly.an.aspie wrote:
Hahaha! My technique with phone sales people: (all in one breath, one sentence, very sweet tone of voice) "Oh, I'm sorry, this is a really bad time for me to talk or spend any money, you have a good day, goodbye now." *hangs up phone* Whole process takes less than 5 seconds, kids snickering in background. I feel this is polite--my tone of voice oozes sweetness, so that makes it polite right?-- but i guess it is a little blunt. It is extremely efficient.


:lol: That sounds funny. I think with phone salesman I'm much more rude than that. I get really irritated. I just basically get them off the phone asap and am not nice either. Your way sounds better.



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13 Jan 2016, 10:21 pm

Let's put it this way...I am learning that I do not sound as nice as I think I do sometimes. So, if I am trying to be rude, I wonder how that comes across.

I get that they have a job to do. But, honestly, there should be limits.


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14 Jan 2016, 5:12 am

Yigeren wrote:
probly.an.aspie wrote:
Hahaha! My technique with phone sales people: (all in one breath, one sentence, very sweet tone of voice) "Oh, I'm sorry, this is a really bad time for me to talk or spend any money, you have a good day, goodbye now." *hangs up phone* Whole process takes less than 5 seconds, kids snickering in background. I feel this is polite--my tone of voice oozes sweetness, so that makes it polite right?-- but i guess it is a little blunt. It is extremely efficient.


:lol: That sounds funny. I think with phone salesman I'm much more rude than that. I get really irritated. I just basically get them off the phone asap and am not nice either. Your way sounds better.


I hate pushy sales people but they aren't worth getting mad over, in my book. I can just as easily be sweet as be angry at them and it takes far less time. I get my point across just as well. I do think this type of technique has helped me socially--in my younger years there would be things i got angry about that weren't worth the time and energy for being as annoyed or angry as i was. Somewhere along the way i discovered that sweetness and pleasantness is actually more efficient and people tend to respond better to it. I can still get my point across, just in a pleasant tone of voice. i still don't put up with BS, but my replies to it tend to be palatable to the other person.

I absolutely can't stand to be "sold" on stuff. I refuse to listen to a sales pitch because if you have to talk me into buying something, it isn't something i want anyway. Kids think it's hilarious. But they also see through sales pitches and commercials with far more savvy than most of their peers. :)


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17 Jan 2016, 5:40 pm

What about, "No phone advertising, thanks. Goodbye", and then you hang up? Or, if you want to be a little less nice, you don't hang up; instead, you resume whatever you were doing and let them keep wasting their time and money with the call, especially if they have orders not to hang up before you do.


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17 Jan 2016, 5:52 pm

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What about, "No phone advertising, thanks. Goodbye", and then you hang up? Or, if you want to be a little less nice, you don't hang up; instead, you resume whatever you were doing and let them keep wasting their time and money with the call, especially if they have orders not to hang up before you do.
They will, by law, be allowed to keep calling unless you have specifically told them not to call the number. That's why it's part of my schpeel....


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18 Jan 2016, 12:51 am

Unfortunately, I am in the process of trying to make some major purchases and talking to salesman is unavoidable. I find their sales tactics to be dishonest, unethical, and obvious. It's annoying. I want to tell them to shut up because it's not fooling me.

In the past I was more easily fooled because I am honest and tend to take people at their word. I got ripped off a few times. And I learned from it. Now I know many of the tricks and look for them. Car salesman are the worst, but most salesman are a bunch of liars.

I think the next one I'm going to tell to skip the sales pitch right from the beginning. I only want the facts. Then maybe I won't hear a half hour of non-stop b.s. where I can't even get a word in edgewise.



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18 Jan 2016, 1:06 am

Yigeren wrote:
Unfortunately, I am in the process of trying to make some major purchases and talking to salesman is unavoidable. I find their sales tactics to be dishonest, unethical, and obvious. It's annoying. I want to tell them to shut up because it's not fooling me.

In the past I was more easily fooled because I am honest and tend to take people at their word. I got ripped off a few times. And I learned from it. Now I know many of the tricks and look for them. Car salesman are the worst, but most salesman are a bunch of liars.

I think the next one I'm going to tell to skip the sales pitch right from the beginning. I only want the facts. Then maybe I won't hear a half hour of non-stop b.s. where I can't even get a word in edgewise.

Sadly most of them are required to 'stay on script'. They can get fired for not staying on script.


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18 Jan 2016, 1:24 am

Only if they are being observed. I worked in retail for a bit and had certain things I had to say. I said them. I sucked at selling things because I refused to try to talk people into buying things they didn't want or need. It's wrong.

Some people I worked with would talk old ladies into buying things they didn't need. It worked, so they were praised by the managers. I just refused to take advantage of people. How could I live with myself?

It's possible to be ethical and still do well in business. It just requires being smart and capable instead of evil and lazy.