Your views on Goths

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Just because you like ripped jeans, it dosn't make you a poser.

no no if you like ripped jeans that's fine. what i was making fun of was PRE-RIPPED jeans, where the tears are cut into the factory and they're already there when you buy them. i consider fashion to be a form of expression, and back in the day people improvised most of the fashions that're now popular in goth and punk circles. they'd let the jeans rip naturally, or rip them themselves, or draw on them with Sharpies (some people still do that), and they'd improvise arm warmers out of old socks or stockings, or jewelry out of safety pins. what i was saying was now you can get it at Hot Topic for a jacked up price and it just doesn't seem that cool to me. doesn't have much underground flavor if you get it at a major retailer available in your local mall.

the goth subculture has real potential to be something cool but its ruined by skanks in black raver pants. i like 80s goth rock though.

Oh, okay. It's just your opinion.

Me and my sister were thinking, and we decided that we would probably dress alot more goth if we had more money. I'd love to make my own stuff, but I don't have the time. So I basically really only have what you can buy at a store. Don't know if that makes me a "poser" or not.

I don't think that makes you a poser. You may just not be able to buy what you want.

To say that "Goth" is simply about black eyeliner/black clothes is like saying "Punk" is simply about getting a mohawk. It's so many things--- music, attitude, style, etc...
People can look many different ways--- there are African-American Goths, disabled Goths, fat goths and Goths with college degrees. There are old Goths and young Goths. And so on. It is really endless... possibilities abound.

Thank you! I wish that more people were as open-minded as you are.

I had a bad experience at the Tom Savini school.

I thought Goth was just a fashion and disliked the locals not liking the kids from the school because of the way they dressed.

But then I lived and worked with those kids for a year.

You don't want to know what I think now.

I've had some friends who are goth, over the years. I've met a few elitist people too. But a lot of subcultures have *some* elitism - like, if you're not X enough, you're not the real thing.

For what it's worth, I didn't call myself punk, even though I had the interests and the appearance, for years, because I didn't want to run afoul of people who would say I wasn't "punk enough." Then after I was done with school, I decided I didn't care what people thought and was just going to call myself punk because that *is* the kind of music I listen to, and I have a lot of the values that are part of that culture. It's more of a personal identity than a community identity.

yeah, elitism in one form or another is prevalent in quite every subculture. its just that there are goths along the more aristocratic line whose elitism seems to hit a nerve with todays zeitgeist. it seems bearable that people are elitist about all other things, though.

I had a few goth friends, they where very nice people.

I don't have anything against goths.

nothing wrong with goths, the rare few friends i have happen to be goths and have been very good friends to me

Many "goths" are people who grew up also feeling disconnected and unwanted. Many were bullied or harrassed.
Some, upon gaining a culture of their own, become the new bullies while others will always be nice. Most societies work this way.

i used to be a goth for years, it helped me a lot, i could hide behind the thick make up , and it was usual to wear large sunglasses 24/7 and if people thought me odd it gave a focus for the oddness, so i felt less judged as a person because people could judge my sense of fashion instead, also i really like the music and i always prefer wearing dark colours so it felt quite natural to me, since i have given up being a goth, mainly because my wife found it a bit scary, i find it harder to go out in fact i hardly ever go out, it feels like i have been stripped of my coping mechanism for the world, as a goth i could just be me and people would just accept that i was weird because of the way i looked without trying to find out anything about me and no one wanted to get too close, the few other goths that i have met seem to be more genuine and open minded than the general populous and i had a few friends back then, mainly because we could all sit aroud and listen to music all night without the need for any interaction, i miss being goth.

Ppl call me a Goth (Along with things like Metalhead and Mosher) like sure I do love goth rock and gothic metal...... I do wear the clothes and I like to read dark books and paint...... but i've never called myself a goth.....

but when ppl call me it I just ignore it....... for I dont care much for labels...... I dress how I like.... do the things I like.....

So if the way I dress/look..... the things I do and the music I like makes me a something..... so be it for I care little about what I am seen as

I have not met many goths.... most of the ppl around where I live are what ppl call emos and chavs (chavs are called neds where im from)