Page 1 of 1 [ 16 posts ] 

CrinklyCrustacean
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 22 Mar 2009
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,284

12 Jun 2009, 4:00 pm

Does anyone else feel like this - that the conversations and friendships they have are fake in some way? That to a degree they are inherently unsatisfactory?



aspieguy101
Raven
Raven

User avatar

Joined: 30 Jan 2009
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 122

12 Jun 2009, 4:16 pm

not the ones I have at the moment. In High School, yes. But I hang out with none of those people anymore. I'm not a big fan of people I percieve to be "fake" or basically anything superficial.



deadeyexx
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 10 Sep 2007
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Posts: 758

12 Jun 2009, 4:25 pm

Mine often do. They feel forced, like I don't naturally maintain relationships & I have to make a conscious effort. Social interation isn't that hard, but it well never be natural to me.



Maggiedoll
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 Jun 2009
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,126
Location: Maryland

12 Jun 2009, 5:24 pm

not so much fake, as unmaintainable.. like I keep wondering how long I can keep up whatever it is that makes someone like me, knowing that eventually they'll realize that I'm awful. At first, things can be kinda generic, and just being nice works.. But past that superficial level, I don't know what I'm supposed to be talking about, or putting into the relationship, or where the line is with how personal I can get about talking about my problems and stuff. I'm not supposed to whine too much, but I'm not supposed to keep people out of my head either. it's some kind of delicate balance I'm supposed to just KNOW without any real feedback.



princesseli
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jan 2008
Age: 36
Gender: Female
Posts: 512
Location: Honolulu HI/ Los Angeles CA

12 Jun 2009, 6:48 pm

From what I've learned: most social relationships that NTs have are fake and according to this girl I had a conversation with once, the fakeness is to maintain the peace, idk. So were not like at each others necks with the truth what we really think of that person. In the community that I live in, I picked up that your suppose to present yourself in a nice, polite, pleasant way in order to perpetuate an artificial happiness within society. In reality, you'll only get to know very few people in your life relatively well. Not that I completely agree with all of this, that's just the way NTs seem to be a lot of time, fake. It works to be an artificial ball of sunshine. :sunny:



pschristmas
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 1 Apr 2008
Age: 57
Gender: Female
Posts: 959
Location: Buda, TX

13 Jun 2009, 12:20 am

Yes, they often feel fake. My relationship with my daughter and with certain other family members are the only ones that don't feel forced.

Regards,

Patricia



Asterisp
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Dec 2007
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Posts: 898
Location: Netherlands

13 Jun 2009, 4:42 am

Sometimes I get invitations for birthdays from people or invitations for a day out and it feels so fake...
maybe the pity me or maybe it has to do something with my social position. I have a good position within my volunteer work and a job with company car (working in ICT has its advantages and for some reason a company car still has high standing with certain people).

First reason sounds more plausible, but when I see behaviour of certain people (dating/sleeping certain people to get a higher social standing) it could be the second reason.

It feels a bit like a game.

However, I seem to have a few friends that seem more genuine, like two.



activebutodd
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 29 May 2009
Age: 38
Gender: Female
Posts: 828

13 Jun 2009, 9:11 am

Yes, I feel like I can't really be that honest. Also I tend to try and suss out what the rules are for a group, and use the chosen words etc.



SteveeVader
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 12 Jun 2009
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 411

13 Jun 2009, 9:17 am

I find it really hard callig m friends friends, just because I know I can't hold them as they live on the other sde of the country and I detest travbelling and peple round my house, I used to be OK when I was 15 but once I turned 16 I have hated people in my spce, room huse it weird i know



theQuail
Sea Gull
Sea Gull

User avatar

Joined: 9 Dec 2007
Age: 31
Gender: Female
Posts: 231

13 Jun 2009, 7:47 pm

Very often, especially because I have to pay constant attention to basic social stuff like boundaries, keeping up the conversation (and knowing when to stop talking, change topics, or other stuff), and monitoring a bit of nonverbal communication like position and direction of my gaze... I tend to worry that I'm doing something wrong, because I know of course that my social skills are artificial and not very good, and I'm lacking in experience. Right now, I'm taking a summer class and have actually made an acquaintance. (! This is weird and rare. Let's see how this goes...) Maintaining and developing that relationship is a lot of work, and it often feels forced. Hopefully, I will feel more confident with time, although the class will be over by then.



Magneto
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Jun 2009
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,086
Location: Blighty

14 Jun 2009, 8:23 am

I don't have any relationships that feel fake, simply because I don't try to fake any. If it feels fake, somethings wrong. I'd much rather people told me what they think of me, then I extend them the same favour.

Of course, it doesn't help that I don't actually see my friends that often, as a result of going to a school over 50 miles away from my home and having to stay there during the week. Friends from school all tend to live a few decamiles away, friends from home I don't see often because I go to a different school and don't share a bus with them.



HowlingMad1992
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2008
Age: 32
Gender: Male
Posts: 395

14 Jun 2009, 9:15 am

I've seen people have social relationships with others and they don't really like them or can't stand them that much. If I can't stand someone I just don't bother with them instead of trying to keep contact with them.



Izzy_Dolphin
Blue Jay
Blue Jay

User avatar

Joined: 3 Jun 2009
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 80
Location: Somewhere

14 Jun 2009, 10:03 pm

HowlingMad1992 wrote:
I've seen people have social relationships with others and they don't really like them or can't stand them that much. If I can't stand someone I just don't bother with them instead of trying to keep contact with them.


I know exactly how that is. I find most of my communication with people fake, and I hate lying, so I just don't communicate unless I can be honest and have a real conversation.


_________________
~Izzy


Daniella
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 9 Jun 2009
Age: 34
Gender: Female
Posts: 317
Location: Netherlands

15 Jun 2009, 9:05 am

All relationships, with exception of the really close ones, feel fake and are a bit like a game to me. Almost a political game - gotta watch your words and piss no one off. Always have to be aware because you might say something they interpret incorrectly. And if you say the right stuff, seem interested, people will start to like you more. If they think you're funny too, you'll get a bonus and maybe get invited to their stupid birthday parties as a reward. If you f**k up, they won't like you anymore and might start spreading bad rumours about you to make others dislike you as well, not making your life much easier as well.

I just try to stay in the middle. Liked, but without getting invited to parties and stuff.



Magneto
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Jun 2009
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,086
Location: Blighty

15 Jun 2009, 10:15 am

That's the middle? I don't need to try to stay there.



Asterisp
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Dec 2007
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Posts: 898
Location: Netherlands

15 Jun 2009, 12:37 pm

Daniella wrote:
f they think you're funny too, you'll get a bonus and maybe get invited to their stupid birthday parties as a reward. If you f**k up, they won't like you anymore and might start spreading bad rumours about you to make others dislike you as well, not making your life much easier as well.

I just try to stay in the middle. Liked, but without getting invited to parties and stuff.

That would be nice, but it seems almost impossible to achieve.

Luckily I have one birthday with a choice, my own... so I did not celebrate it for the last two years.