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knowledgeiskey
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13 Oct 2009, 7:32 pm

Or is it the other way around?


I think lonely people are shunned by society. No one wants to be alone. We all want to be accompanied.



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13 Oct 2009, 7:39 pm

Quote:
No one wants to be alone.


I'm quite happy being alone. Maybe I'm no one, but I doubt it.



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13 Oct 2009, 8:16 pm

It all depends.



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13 Oct 2009, 10:16 pm

I'd definitely shun society, given the ability. The wars, the arguments, the stupidity... the baggage. I don't need it in my life.


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14 Oct 2009, 2:45 am

I hate not having a social life. Gonna try and change that in the next 2 years though, and if nothing happens, I'll just go back in my shell again.



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14 Oct 2009, 9:35 am

Yes.


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14 Oct 2009, 10:09 am

It's a mixed bag.
Take a look at homeless people for example. Bet you they feel lonely all the time. How do you feel about them? Society understands partially what they feel, providing them with shelter, food, and spare change. The other part thinks they could pull themselves together with just a little motivation.

Lonely is more of a feeling rather than a word to describe someone. It is understood by others that this is one's choice. Choosing to befriend a lonely person brings all of that person's burden with it, atop the burden of one's own life situation. To make friends, you have to be one. To find love, you need to have the capacity for it.

Everyone goes through similar emotional experiences, and we were created to empathize. It's all a matter of whether one is willing to act on it, or remain ignorant.



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14 Oct 2009, 10:13 am

Yes, but only because lonely people shun society too



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15 Oct 2009, 7:34 pm

knowledgeiskey wrote:
I think lonely people are shunned by society. No one wants to be alone. We all want to be accompanied.


Pretty much. Don't forget that there might exist some sort of feedback loop: lonely people are shunned by society, so thus they do not learn the critical skills they need to meet people (and be met by people for that matter). Thus, they remain lonely. The only way out is to get out early enough before it consumes you.



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16 Oct 2009, 3:39 pm

yeah, i was about to say:
sometimes it's society that is shunned by lonely people.
thus they're lonely. and create a loneliness paradox.
not wanting to be alone at heart, but self-imposed solitude based on a quasi-protective brand of self-denial to act as an emotional shielding mechanism. :lol:

some people can't handle living with and accepting simple truths full-time. it's rather sad.
but understandable in it's way.


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16 Oct 2009, 4:22 pm

Alone does not equal lonely.

I am a loner, I resent your wording as fact something which is personal preference.



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16 Oct 2009, 4:26 pm

Justcurious wrote:
Alone does not equal lonely.

I am a loner, I resent your wording as fact something which is personal preference.
i was talking specifically about lonely people. in no way did i say that all loners are lonely feeling. you can check it twice if you wish.

if you had the misfortune of making some offending, but nonetheless imaginary connection in my words, my apologies because they are my words and thus the cause of the reaction and it is indirectly my fault as it would never have occurred if i had said nothing.


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16 Oct 2009, 4:34 pm

I was responding directly to the OP as I thought was clear by the fact that I did not reference your's or anyone else's post. Sorry for the confusion.

I get a little narky about this as too many people seem to feel ashamed or abnormal if they don't crave company. I say to hell with others.



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16 Oct 2009, 5:49 pm

I think it goes both ways.
People who tend to enjoy solitude may seem to "Shun" society by not becoming involved in conversations and preferring to be alone.

However, loner is used as a derogatory term by the majority. People assume that if someone enjoys being on their own there must be either something wrong with them, or that they are a bad person. Anyone, if they are alone, are more vulnerable to bullying and discrimination. Loners are often accused of being suspicious or shady and it is assumed that the only possible reason someone would want to spend time away from others most of the time is because they are doing something shameful! People have sometimes even been accused of serious crimes because they are a) known to the victim and b) a loner.

And if a loner ever finds his/herself becoming lonely, or at least seeking acquaintance, they are often shut out.



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17 Oct 2009, 9:51 pm

Lonely people are shunned by society in some cases. If you make yourself seem miserable and less desirable to others, then they won't want to be bothered with you. This is especially true in the work environment as well.

People are judgmental. This will not change. What can change is how you view or accept the fact.



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18 Oct 2009, 3:20 am

Ralston wrote:
Lonely people are shunned by society in some cases. If you make yourself seem miserable and less desirable to others, then they won't want to be bothered with you. This is especially true in the work environment as well.

People are judgmental. This will not change. What can change is how you view or accept the fact.
aptly pointed out.


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