No friends? Probably not AS, just your IQ

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17 Dec 2016, 8:52 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJr226idrFg

Made me feel better.
Not that I feel bad or anything.



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17 Dec 2016, 9:19 pm

Yes, very interesting. Although, i think Aspergers explains not having a great many friends due not only to high IQ (or Intelligence in some areas) but also problems in other areas.

For example, I worked out that my problems with many of the people i have encountered through life is caused by several different factors, sometimes in isolation but other times more than one of these at the same time.

High IQ (at least in some areas)
talent or developed interest in some areas
Anxiety
Rigid moral views or standards
Not being a bully or sadist
Not being a liar
Not being religious
Problems communicating
being generally nice
having a keen sense of justice (although rigid)
sensitivity to what jerk offs people are (sensing danger/protecting yourself)
valuing your time for knowledge acquisition and creating more than socializing



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17 Dec 2016, 9:21 pm

better to spend your time with the few people who you actually like or doing something you love doing
in an area that you either acquire knowledge or achieve creative goals than wasting it hanging out with people
who you actually hate, don't trust and don't like the company of.



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18 Dec 2016, 3:04 am

^I quite agree with you, madnotmad. I too find that it's a combination of the two, even if I don't consider myself particularly intelligent. There definitely is a major aspect of social impairment that makes establishing and sustaining friendships difficult for me. I do not actively avoid all social contact or potential friendships based on a perceived incompatibility of intelligence. In fact, I have been on the receiving end of rejection from people who are smarter than I am (this is unrelated to the thread I started last week in this subforum). Often, I would like to surround myself with so-called kindred spirits, but I have little clue on how to approach people, and when I do it often goes wrong.


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18 Dec 2016, 5:11 am

I have no friends IRL. It's because of social awkwardness not superior intelligence.



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19 Dec 2016, 1:12 am

I'm not 100% sure how accurate this is. My IQ is somewhere in the 135-140 range, and while I can't stand most people, there's a certain kind of person that I just can't get enough of and which is hard to explain. Many (but not all) of these people are neurodivergent, and most (but not all) are awkward, shy, and/or geeky.

To be completely fair I'm probably not quite at the level of "very intelligent" that they were talking about, but I'm not necessarily happier alone. I'd rather be alone than be with with average, conventional NT people, but I'd rather be with neurodivergent, awkward, shy, or nerdy people than be alone.



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20 Dec 2016, 5:35 am

This study claims that people with higher intelligence have/need/want "Less" friends, and still are able to make them if they wanted to.

Autism makes you have next-to-no friends, and nearly inable to make more, even though you want to.
Sure, the two effects can coincide, which makes the lack of friends due to autism hurt less, since you'd want less anyway, but they shouldn't be confused.

This is a confusion similar to not going to a party due to either overstimulation or just not caring about human contact: The effect is the same, but the reasons are different



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21 Dec 2016, 4:19 pm

This is not the case for me. I have poor intelligence. And i am ugly. That remix scares people off. I cant even get a friend on internet, thats how bad it is.



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21 Dec 2016, 5:47 pm

Yeah, my IQ is nothing special. It's the AS.