Do You Make People Uncomfortable
A couple of days ago I went out with my brothers on Mill Ave. Its a place by ASU in Arizona where there arelots of bars. Im not old enuff to get in them but we went into a burger restaurant. I was with my older brother sitting down when he asked me if I noticed a girl looking at him and I said no. 5 minutes later the girl comes over and makes her move on us. She starts talking to us and she notices that I'm a little shy. I was nervous because I havent been out of the house in a while and talking to new girls makes me nervous. The girl said "aww he's so shy" to her friend. I was even more nervous knowing that my brither was judging me. My brother put on an act in front of the girls. It was somewhat of a smooth act and the girl fell for it. I could tell that the girl was acting as well. I didnt put on an act because thats hard for me. Then the girl gave me a hug and i didnt hug her back because i was scared uncomfortable. Her and my brother exchanged numbers and the girl took my hand and kissed it. My brother said "you need to stop being so shy around girls. You also need to watch for signals. I saw that she was looking at us the whole time, she really wanted to talk to you, but you were too shy! Dont be a hermit"
My brother has a learning disability and he has trouble understanding signs and stuff when he drives and he often gets lost but I help him navigate sometimes. I could easily call him ret*d but that would not be nice. but for some reason when you have a social impairment people get on you more, and more emotional pain comes from it. My brain doesnt function to pick up those signals, and when I try I usually get them wrong.
I wrote my school counselor, who was more like a therapist to me over this school year. I am now graduated. and the message I wrote her was when I was gaduated. I wrote the message on Saturday. I told her about the incident and how my brother has a learning disability. I compared it to a girl who seduced me, and how I didnt pick up any signs before she said "I wanna have sex with you". The point of the message was to compare two similar situations where a girl has shown enough interest in me to give me physical contact.
My counselor writes back that she is not comfortable talking to me about sex. I felt really embarrassed even though it is over the internet. Before she replied it took her about 2.5 days. I wrote her a message today asking oif she got my message (abou the incident) she finally replied with that message. But i realized she was avoiding the message at first. I was completely embarrassed and ashamed of myself.
But now that I look at it, I understand that I wasnt trying to talk to her about sex, but explain two similar situations. I often make people uncomfortable because I am so straight forward.
Before the incident I would write my counselor telling her how the guys in my class would talk about having sex with their gfs and it would frustrate me. I would also add other stuff to the message. My counselor would reply to the other stuff, but wouldnt refer back to the sex part.
I didnt expect her to talk about sex, but only how to deal with hearing stuff i didnt wanna hear. Now I realize the whole time she was uncomfortable talking about anything that had the word sex in it. Now I feel dumb. i dont know if I should.
Its hard enough picking up social cues IRL, and trying to so it over email is so much worse.
What do you guys think. should I be embarrassed? I was only trying to talk about how I dont pick up on social cues well, thats it. I thought about explaining this to her, but at the end of her message she told me to "Have a nice summer". Implying that she doesnt wanna talk to me anymore, so im gonna take that as a cue.
I was comparing how I didn't pick up on the social cues that the girls was probably trying to send me before she asked me to have sex with her, just like I didn't pick up on the cues that the girl at the hamburger restaurant was sending me before she kissed me.
I was comparing how I didn't pick up on the social cues that the girls was probably trying to send me before she asked me to have sex with her, just like I didn't pick up on the cues that the girl at the hamburger restaurant was sending me before she kissed me.
oh well. first of all your brother seems annoying, you dont have to be outgoing if you dont want to be. That girl seemed to act inapropriately, who does that when you dont even know the person? that is weird. And why did that other girl want to do that to you? im sorry but when that happens you really should say no, dont do something if you dont want to. Sorry im not much of a help but, i dont know. :/
I think you should avoid going out with your brother & possibly go with some girl/guy friends (doesn't matter what combo) if you have any. Otherwise, I'd stick with another relative or your parents. Did this girl seriously say she wanted to have sex with you? Or did you just assume that based on her behavior and what your brother was saying?
If she didn't say she wanted to have sex with you she was either flirting in an over-the-top manner or trying to make you look like a jerk. If she said that she was either coming on to you (in an extremely inappropriate manner for someone you just met) or again trying to manipulate you. Sums up to 2 scenarios that could also be combined: either you just seem fun to take advantage of or are extremely good looking (both is possible). I'm assuming you just graduated from high school? Hopefully, if you go to college or now that your out of high school you will have the opportunity to make some friends who you can trust and will help you out in the kind of situation you had with your brother.
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If she didn't say she wanted to have sex with you she was either flirting in an over-the-top manner or trying to make you look like a jerk. If she said that she was either coming on to you (in an extremely inappropriate manner for someone you just met) or again trying to manipulate you. Sums up to 2 scenarios that could also be combined: either you just seem fun to take advantage of or are extremely good looking (both is possible). I'm assuming you just graduated from high school? Hopefully, if you go to college or now that your out of high school you will have the opportunity to make some friends who you can trust and will help you out in the kind of situation you had with your brother.
No, the girl who wanted to have sex with me and the girl who kissed me are two different people. I was comparing both (true) scenarios to my counselor and I made her feel uncomfortable. I was only trying to tell her how i didnt pick up the girls mixed signals b4 we the scenarios happened. and me and the girl who asked me to have sex, we actually had sex with each other. Thanks for your support, but please read my post more carefully.
Last edited by Soledad on 09 Jun 2010, 9:46 am, edited 1 time in total.
I got confused b/c it sounded like you referring to 2 girls. One who was flirting w/ you (who I thought was the one who both kissed you & asked you to have sex) and the other was interested in your brother. Now it sounds like 3 girls...
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Anyways the post is not about those girls. It's about how do I stop thinking about my counselor telling me that she is uncomfortable talking about the subject of sex. I feel really embarrassed, although I know it's not my fault, I just don't know how to stop thinking about it. The sentence has been replaying in my mind ever since I read it and there's not a second that goes by that I don't think about it. its very frustrating
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It is unusual for a school councilor to avoid the discussion of sex...that is part of their job because of the crazy hormones durring high school to be able to thwart any sexually dangerous or irresponcible situation. So in discussing this with her, you are assuming that she is able to fulfill her job requirements. With that said, it seems like she has a personal issue about sex...which is not your fault in the least and you should not be embarrased. It does seem though that she acts like someone who has been sexually abused at some point in her life. Again, do not feel bad about this. She has the responcibility to get help for that, justice...whatever she needs to do to overcome it, so she can be able to fulfill her job requirements or she needs to find a new line of work.
You have done nothing wrong...so dont feel bad, but dont try discussing what I mentioned above to her as that will not go well for you if that is the case.
As far as seeing social cues of when a girl puts the moves to you. Some times people can get sexual without much warning...that is always unsettling. If you dont like that, you have the right to say so. Just because you are a guy does not mean you have to be a full throttle sex machine if that makes you uncomfortable. Sometimes girls assume that guys want to have sex all the time with whoever is willing and female...but guys have boundaries too. You dont have to allow girls do what they want with you.
best wishes,
Jojo
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Thanks you guys you guys are right. I am on summer break now so I wont ever see her again probably in my life because I will be starting university in the fall. I just find it hard to let go of what someone says. and I've posted this same question on many different sites, and I am told by everyone that it's not my fault. so i guess it's not my fault
Hey, I went to ASU too. Mill avenue kinda sucks.....
anyway... I don't know you or your adviser, but from the outside looking in, you shouldn't be too hard on yourself. It sounded like you had a good rapport with your adviser and trusted him/her enough to ask for some feed back about something personal. You already had confided more personal aspects of your life anyway, so maybe at the time it seemed alright to bring up the incidents involving, well, what you told us about. Just in the future be a little more cautious with that kind of thing. When you start to want to ask somebody for their thoughts on that kind of thing, consider who they are to you. No big deal at all.
Hey, I went to ASU too. Mill avenue kinda sucks.....
anyway... I don't know you or your adviser, but from the outside looking in, you shouldn't be too hard on yourself. It sounded like you had a good rapport with your adviser and trusted him/her enough to ask for some feed back about something personal. You already had confided more personal aspects of your life anyway, so maybe at the time it seemed alright to bring up the incidents involving, well, what you told us about. Just in the future be a little more cautious with that kind of thing. When you start to want to ask somebody for their thoughts on that kind of thing, consider who they are to you. No big deal at all.
You went to ASU too? I don't like Mill Ave. too many drunk people. How did you deal with ASU? you can write me a pm if u want. I need all the advice from an aspie that I can get
Hey, I went to ASU too. Mill avenue kinda sucks.....
anyway... I don't know you or your adviser, but from the outside looking in, you shouldn't be too hard on yourself. It sounded like you had a good rapport with your adviser and trusted him/her enough to ask for some feed back about something personal. You already had confided more personal aspects of your life anyway, so maybe at the time it seemed alright to bring up the incidents involving, well, what you told us about. Just in the future be a little more cautious with that kind of thing. When you start to want to ask somebody for their thoughts on that kind of thing, consider who they are to you. No big deal at all.
You went to ASU too? I don't like Mill Ave. too many drunk people. How did you deal with ASU? you can write me a pm if u want. I need all the advice from an aspie that I can get
I attended ASU West. Sorry to be misleading. I'm glad I didn't go to Main campus either. I've visited the Tempe campus numerous times by taking the shuttle from West to Main. The minute I step off the bus, I feel this oppressive air of snobbery and shallowness. Everyone there looked like they would have been the big people on campus- all the guys wear affliction T shirts and ride skate boards, all the girls are stunningly hot with fake tans, and sport tank tops and short shorts. But you know this, so I won't digress. There are decent people there, though, you just have to look. Good luck. If I'm very unlucky I'll be going back for a masters, so I might run into you.
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