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Over time my social skills have improved by X
X=3: I've worked really hard and turned myself into a social butterfly. 13%  13%  [ 3 ]
X=2: I've worked hard and can pass for a normal socialy developed person not. 29%  29%  [ 7 ]
X=1: I've made some progress but I still have a lot of problems. 46%  46%  [ 11 ]
X=0a: I've tried really, really, hard but gotten nowhere. 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
X=0b: Because it isn't a priority for me. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
X=-1: It feels like I've gone backwards because all I've figured out is that I'm even worse at this than I thought. 8%  8%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 24

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15 Dec 2010, 1:39 pm

X=-1: I've been trying for almost 3 years to improve. I started by thinking this would be a matter of study, practice, and patience for me. Unfortunately I haven't found any sources to study. Without new information, I have nothing I new to practice, I'm stuck with the same skills that continue not to work. And three years is a lot of patience for an endeavor that has come up with negative results.


My hope with this thread is to get some feedback from people who have improved. I hear a lot of people say they got better but never say how. What did you do that worked? Please be really specific.

Bad Example: I read book ABC and it really helped.

Good Example: I read book ABC and I realized that I should do this instead of that, and this thing instead of that thing, and I should never do things D, E, and F which I was doing all the time before.


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15 Dec 2010, 2:07 pm

X=2. Most people I meet wouldn't guess that I've had problems with social anxiety and bullying in the past. Telling some friends the latter received quite shocked responses. I'm no social butterfly, however.

Most people who know me reasonably well admit that I've probably got some form of autism, however.


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15 Dec 2010, 7:39 pm

I think somewhere between x=1 and x=2 depending on situation, how tired I am, and how much I care.


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15 Dec 2010, 7:58 pm

X=3.

I can be very social only I don't even feel like I need to all the time.
I fool the professionals.

This is very important: Do you feel anything from other people? Do you actively/passively suppress feelings?

This makes a world of difference in being automatic or granny shifting in social skills, if you do not feel a single thing at anyone (even animals) you might consider looking in acting.

I can tell tons and I already have in other threads, but without empathy it's a whole other story.
It ok to not have empathy, it just makes socialising with people who have harder.

Here are a few examples for sources:

Social skill

Quote:
A social skill is any skill facilitating interaction and communication with others. Social rules and relations are created, communicated, and changed in verbal and nonverbal ways. The process of learning such skills is called socialization. The rationale for this type of an approach to treatment is that people meet a variety of social problems and can reduce the stress and punishment from the encounter as well as increase their reinforcement by having the correct skills.

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Theoretical
-Communication sciences
-Ettiquette
-Verbalisation
-Body language
-Improvisation
-Expression
-Group mechanics
-Basic list of conversation topics (news, weather, popular sports, hot topics, etc.)
-Comparisons of human behaviour and other mammal behaviour

Practical
-Trail-and-Error (Very important!)
-Making mistakes and taking risks
-Trust (The stuff where all relations are made of)

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16 Dec 2010, 7:37 pm

X=1

I have made some progress in life... And I do believe that I'm better shape than 10 years ago...But I don't think I pass for neurotypical... I'm in new job, that demands some social skills and people point some problems with me all the time... I'm actually feeling I got back to school again. I'm clearly seen like the weirdo on a great range of situations, no one seems surprised with my asperger's diagnosis.



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16 Dec 2010, 8:05 pm

X=1 and X=-1. I've made some improvements no doubt, but also discovered how far behind I actually was. Got more bold so I can talk to anyone, but shyness turned out not to be the underlying issue. The main issue was being bad at intimacy, which makes any relationship other than the most basic ones very difficult.

Nobody sees it when they first meet me. I say hi, then talk about the weather, sports, and current events like anyone else. But after the 100th time of doing that, and no other connection has formed, they finally get that I'm just really well trained in formalities.



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16 Dec 2010, 8:20 pm

Moog wrote:
I think somewhere between x=1 and x=2 depending on situation, how tired I am, and how much I care.


This statement.



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18 Dec 2010, 1:31 am

X=2 for scripted social skills - etiquette, politeness, stock phrases, etc. Stuff that can be learned, studied, and memorized. I'm better at this than most NTs I know. I learned these skills mostly from my mom.

X=1 for unscripted conversations. I'm working on it, but I just never know what to say to people. I can't think of a single thing to say, not even something random or weird. I get very anxious and I'm inhibited about being myself. I've gleaned all my conversation skills from all the books, TV shows, and movies I've watched over the past decade, plus a lot of people-watching. Problem is, a lot of the things I learn are contradictory. For example, there are expressions like "still waters run deep" and "we have two ears and one mouth so we can listen twice as much as we speak", but people are always telling me I don't talk enough.



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22 Dec 2010, 6:28 am

x=2 Id say I've worked very hard where I can come across as normal to people that meet me and that know me as an acquaintance. I greet people, make small talk, try to smile, show some body language, make eye contact. Most people wouldnt guess that I have aspergers and that I was selectively mute for 9 years. Id say i come across as normal to most of my friends but some of them have pointed out my social mistakes. As of right now, the only non-NT thing I do, I still haven't mastered a coherent greeting(I normally wave or say hello only when their looking, if their not looking i'll sometimes creep up on them).

Id say I got better with a lotta practice and studying people. Books nor instruction havent helped much. Just socializing with people throughout the years, with a crap load of trial and error.