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29 Jul 2011, 8:44 pm

I went to alumni association function last night and was working on my social skills which have improved.

I am amazed at how quick witted some NTs are. They think of funny and witty things to say so fast.

Does anyone have any tips with how to become more quick witted?



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29 Jul 2011, 9:35 pm

KevinLA wrote:
I went to alumni association function last night and was working on my social skills which have improved.

I am amazed at how quick witted some NTs are. They think of funny and witty things to say so fast.

Does anyone have any tips with how to become more quick witted?


Best thing to do is to study what the NTs say and come up with variations. Also, practice is very important which you seem to be engaging in. Once you learn these things and get more comfortable, it will happen without you needing to think about it. That's when it works the best.

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29 Jul 2011, 11:15 pm

My approach to this sort of question in my own life is that there are two explanations, and it’s impossible to discern which one is more appropriate. One the one hand, you could say that the social skills neurotypicals spend so much time honing are really distractions from more important things. Bear in mind, there is a great deal of evidence for this; consider how trivial socializing seems next to topics like science and art. However, one could also argue that socializing is simply another skill which requires diligence and a natural predisposition to master. There is evidence for this too; after all, even the greatest men work within the confines of society. As far as I can see, the propensity to favor one explanation over the other is typically a matter of conjecture. It seems rational to me to try to orchestrate the two approaches in such a way as to give life balance and, hopefully, a little poetry.



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30 Jul 2011, 12:11 am

alex wrote:
KevinLA wrote:
I went to alumni association function last night and was working on my social skills which have improved.

I am amazed at how quick witted some NTs are. They think of funny and witty things to say so fast.

Does anyone have any tips with how to become more quick witted?


Best thing to do is to study what the NTs say and come up with variations. Also, practice is very important which you seem to be engaging in. Once you learn these things and get more comfortable, it will happen without you needing to think about it. That's when it works the best.

Alex


Can you elaborate with what variation are?



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30 Jul 2011, 1:09 am

Cocaine, and lots of it.



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30 Jul 2011, 3:02 am

I have no idea how they do it. It must be scripted.


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30 Jul 2011, 11:10 am

I think a big problem is anxiety.

After I have a conversation with someone, afterwards I will replay it in my mind and think of things I should have said.

I usually can think really fast what I should have said.

I am almost certain that anxiety plays a role in preventing me from thinking quickly.

One thing I notice when observing NTs when they are talking with each other. They seemed to be zoned out from everything going on around them and focused entirely on what is being said and responding.



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04 Aug 2011, 2:04 am

Watch Jeremy Clarkson from Top Gear, beware though, too much quick witted=douchebag. Also, there's like 800 gazillion Bible passages/random other secular proverbs about being slow to speak, considering what you say, etc.

One thing for me, I'm often not quickwitted, but I do make people laugh, sometimes people update their facebook statuses and whatnot with what I say. So even if you can't be quick witted, you can still be funny, and eventually take less time doing it.

One thing to keep in mind, you're likely "thinking" about what you say, and they're likely not, and the prospect of you changing your thought pattern to nonthinking would be hard. The fact that you're thinking about their quick wittedness, analyzing how they do it, etc, puts you at odds with most people as they would not "think" about that.t of you changing your thought pattern to nonthinking would be hard. The fact that you're thinking about their quick wittedness, analyzing how they do it, etc, puts you at odds with most people as they would not "think" about that.



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04 Aug 2011, 3:52 pm

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04 Aug 2011, 3:56 pm

KevinLA wrote:
I think a big problem is anxiety.


Its probably THE problem buddy. Plenty of us Aspies are quick on our feet.

KevinLA wrote:
After I have a conversation with someone, afterwards I will replay it in my mind and think of things I should have said.


I have it on good authority that neurotypicals have that issue as well...

KevinLA wrote:
One thing I notice when observing NTs when they are talking with each other. They seemed to be zoned out from everything going on around them and focused entirely on what is being said and responding.


Yep cause they can only pay attention to one thing at a time, poor things. Bless 'em! :P



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05 Aug 2011, 1:50 am

This is one of my least favorite attributes of being aspie. I have always wished I could have bold and witty remarks ready on hand, like many "sassy" female heroines and characters I've seen on TV and real life. Unfortunately, realistically someone says something and then I'm supposed to exchange witty banter and my mind is blank. I usually yelp out some awkward phrase (or some incoherent sentence fragment) and make the other person feel uncomfortable. I often mistake sarcasm for sincerity. For example, a coworker joked we cloesd an hour early, and I excitedly exclaimed "We're closing an hour early?" and a coworker had to tell me he was joking. I feel like I'm missing out on a whole frequency of the human experience



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05 Aug 2011, 2:27 am

Watch a lot of TV shows and movies.

No, really.



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05 Aug 2011, 2:19 pm

KevinLA wrote:
I think a big problem is anxiety.

After I have a conversation with someone, afterwards I will replay it in my mind and think of things I should have said.

I usually can think really fast what I should have said.

I am almost certain that anxiety plays a role in preventing me from thinking quickly.

One thing I notice when observing NTs when they are talking with each other. They seemed to be zoned out from everything going on around them and focused entirely on what is being said and responding.


Hi, I'm NT. I just wanted to throw in that a lot of us NTs have anxiety issues as well and that you shouldn't feel bad about that. Being anxious over your anxiety will only make it worse, you know?

A lot of us do that "think of things to say later" bit, too. I know I do it all the time, and I don't even have much of an anxiety issue. Some of us are quick to think on our feet, but even a lot of those people will think of something funny to say a few hours too late. I think it's just a matter of having more time, so there are more possibilities, and you can reflect and choose what would have been best to say.

The focus part... Most of us NTs do have an easy time focusing on our conversations, but a lot of us will still zone out now and then. We're not perfect, you know? :P I think we're not really as amazing as you're seeing us. Maybe knowing that will help with your anxiety?



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06 Aug 2011, 7:43 pm

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11 Aug 2011, 5:18 pm

MoonMetropolis wrote:
Watch a lot of TV shows and movies.

No, really.


I agree. For me, Jerry Springer has showed me a lot about articulating a comeback. Shows like Will and Grace and Friends helped too, because the characters are so funny and quick.



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12 Aug 2011, 5:10 pm

I second (third) that from MoonMetropolis!
It's called being cultured... well at least that's what it has come to these days.

Personally, I hate series shows that primarily attempt to articulate social dynamics. I only watch super hero movies :D


What I do is I open a file in my mind and consciously organize all of the joke memories in the mindspace. Next, I use tags to mark specific instances in which the humor seems appropriate, and I am constantly testing, cross-categorizing and reorganizing them to this day. Also, remember that there are comedians "like you" who tailor their jokes to their "type," and that those will be the jokes that people will respond to most readily. And by that I don't mean autism, just to be clear.