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Matenrou
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05 Sep 2006, 12:47 am

Every time I have a conflict with someone, everyone around us condemns me and excuses the other, regardless of the circumstances. Even people who are otherwise supportive and understanding never support me, but they support the other. People still hang out with the other, but they shun me. If I don’t try to make amends, no one does. Even if I manage to patch up things, people are quick to bring up my “past offences” often. Any time I express a different view, everyone starts moaning about how I’m causing trouble again. Thus, I let the relationship end because I cannot stand hanging out with people who force me to live in shame.

What can I do?
Does anyone have the same situation?



larsenjw92286
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05 Sep 2006, 8:22 am

I think I have the same problem.

I asked the one who I was considering inviting to join this forum too personal of a question, and I haven't spoken to her since. I don't think she forgives me.

At least I tried to form a nice friendship.


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05 Sep 2006, 10:52 am

oh there's no way am i liking someone that brings up past "mistakes" i did. typically people that do that are nosy



Malaclypse
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05 Sep 2006, 11:46 am

Boy is that one familiar! I got to the conclusion that it in my case was about me reacting in ways they got scared of, because I can't stand that slow build-up of aggression that lasts forever until it subsides neatly after both combatants have had their say and nothing is really said, but both have by that time exhausted themselves anyway and now carry even more aggression inside (or maybe that's the opposite with NTs, but I've always been irritated when the IDIOT has the last word and chaos spreads out in the world one tiny bit more).
But the other reason was that they simply didn't get my reasons for arguing and finding a fault somewhere in how I was treated. They reacted badly when something strange happened that "settled up against the routine", so to say, not caring one wit if it should be classified as pathologic or not. Most NTs are like that in my experience: it doesn't matter if it rains corrosive acid on them. "Put on your metal helmet and shut up, son. Stop whimpering. This is life." As long as its normal, it's not something you should complain about.
Don't settle up against the family is the mafioso style, btw. It's about forming routines and being scared of anything that changes it or their identities go to hell, because they're not rooted in themselves, but in the idiot group mind of dogmatic shite that's much less practical and flexible than a single individual really is. We aspies and those like us see this need to change and experience more, but are not allowed, even though it could very likely change both theirs and our futures for the better.