How annoyed do you get at all the 'social norms' out there?

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Fairly regular for me.
Call me lazy,unmotivated,etc whatever but the ones that irk me the most are the general suspects

"You gotta get a good college education to be successful in life"

"You're gonna have to work hard at the 9-5 grind for a while if you want to be wealthy someday"

You gotta dress this way if you're going to church/town/(insert social gathering here) blah blah blah"


Now don't get me wrong,I'm sure all of these have at least a bit of truth to them.Some people that get college degree's do find good jobs.But on the other hand I know many that have a degree and no job in sight.And people who are dropouts who have created their own business.Thats actually a dream I'm currently working on. Total Financial independence is my goal.And for the same reason I think the 9-5 job idea is a lot of bunk as well.

Now the last I could understand if I was dressing like a hobo to go.But many times I get criticized for just wanting to wea casual cloths to these kind of events.It's really annoying.

Social Norm Rules that annoy me...

1. Women shouldn't be friends with men
2. Women should never leave the house without make-up
3. You should watch TV at least once a day
4. You should only like music deemed cool by the industry
5. You should always go out and get drunk at the weekend
6. Men should always make the first move in romance
7. If you are over a size 10 you are getting fat if you are a 14 you are fat (UK)

and so on...

Very annoyed.

If it's so important, why do rich people fight to make higher education impossible for the less fortunate to achieve?

If wealth is so important then why is it wielded like a weapon to crush the competition?

I only feel comfortable in T-shirts, I could not live a life where I had to wear a suit, that alone makes 'success' unappealing to me.

Church/religion is detriment to humanity, and anyone thinking their attire matters to God is proof of that.

If you can work for yourself, go for it. I tried, I wrote some software that I tried to sell independently, I worked up to 16 hours a day on it for almost a year straight. When that failed, I went back to the minimum wage work I was capable of and familiar with.

Success is relative. I am a success in my own mind and to no one else.

@ EmilyVictoria -
I love Einstein quotes!! That man had a way with words that was more genius than I have ever seen.

Oh yea, I waited my whole life for the girl to make the first move...... Still waiting, but I don't really care anymore now that I am old.


'Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction.' - Albert Einstein

Personally I hate already made, stupid, nonsensical expressions and metaphors people use. And when I try to correct them, people get mad and angry at me saying ''it's just an expression!'' and no matter how hard I try to defend my point those stupid NTs keep their illogical expressions and defend them like if it was vital. WTF. (My mom and my brother are especially prone to this).

A really obnoxious example that happened a few minutes ago:

Mom: I said that the last one to get inside should lock the door.
Me: Well technically [my brother] was the last one to get inside.
Mom: OH I'M SO F***ING SICK OF YOUR ''TECHNICALLY''! WELL I MEANT ''TECHNICALLY'' THE LAST ONE TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE ENTRANCE! GEE WHY DO YOU TAKE EVERYTHING TO THE LETTER!?!?!
Mom and Brother: *starts ranting and screaming stupidly*
Me: WTF?! (stupid NTs)

Annoyed? EXTREMELY! It's the whole reason I feel like I'm on the "wrong planet". And here are just a "few" more "rules" that make me want to strangle people:
-Women who aren't married or have boyfriends must be lesbians or huge losers.
-Women must wear a dress or skirt several times a week and makeup every day.
-People who aren't popular or only have a few friends are losers.
-People who are alone a lot must be lonely.
-People who are loners are nasty or evil like Scrooge or Mr. Burns.
-Women who wear their hair short are lesbians and/or tomboys
-Only guys like video games
-If you don't have a completed education and a job by the time you're 21your life is OVER.
-You must do hours and hours of homework every single night or you will be a future ditch-digger.
-Weed is not a drug, it is a natural substance that Mother Nature gave us and it's harmless (Mother Nature also gave us poison ivy, death cap mushrooms and other plants that can kill us and dope is even more cancer-causing than tobacco.)
-Cats are evil and so are their owners
-It is impossible to be "just friends" with a member of the opposite sex
-Human babies are cute, adorable, innocent AND EASY TO TAKE CARE OF.*shivers*
-Being abused verbally and emotionally is okay, only physical abuse is wrong.
- The USA is the single greatest country in the world, and Canada is boring and unimportant.
-Only the clothes that have been in style for the past 5 minutes are worth wearing.
-If you don't drink alcohol you must be a recovering alcoholic or an unbelievable nerd.
-We must all look, act, speak, dress and think the same way, like a bunch of mindless clones or become the victims of prejudice.
-Women must slather on oily smelly lotions and chemicals to hide their facial "flaws" or they will look hideous.
-ALL women MUST be at least 20 lbs underweight, blonde-haired, tanned and have huge breasts to be beautiful.

...Okay, that wasn't just a "few" so-called rules. That's why I used quotation marks.

When I read the subject of this thread I just knew I had to post here.. but then I glanced through what others had to say and realized.....

"what social rules?"

However, I do get annoyed:

1. with NT'ers for not thinking before they speak or act.

2. with the NT given name 'Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder'. It's not a disorder it's a gift.... a gift of not being "average" (aka boring). It's not an attention deficit it's an attention surplus. We're paying attention to all the things noone else noticed and not paying to attention the boring right in front of us.

3. that NT'ers assume that having ADD/ADHD means you act like Robin Williams.

4. when others expect you to react like "everyone else" does is also pretty annoying... especially when the other person(s) know you're not like "everyone else"... I always ask "hello, did you forget who you were talking to?" when they get all upset and start into you... Which just brings me abck to #1.

Sigh...this reminds me of the time when I spoke out firmly against one of the social norms at a table full of NT girls. Whew...I was later quite ashamed when I realized how badly what I did. It was about some dumb controversial bible verse about being submissive to your husband. Gah! I could not hold it in!! The girls were just pleasantly agreeing, I mean we're in the 21st century ladies, WOMENS RIGHTS for goodness sakes.

To think about this...I did this again. Not a good thing. After that happened, it subtly made the relationship between me and this girl kinda worse. But point being, speaking venomously out against social norms to people are not at least kinda weird themselves and/or very liberal is a bad thing. Especially if your a women, cause women are not suppose to be shoving their opinions in peoples faces. Oohhh thats a social norm I strongly dislike

Women are suppose to be pleasant and agreeable and not be vocal about their true opinions.
Women are suppose to be sweet, care takers and love kids....ick

Uhh I can probably think of more....ill reply later.

People expecting consistency in personal style is a bit annoying. If one day I feel like wearing loose fitting black clothing and no makeup and a few days later I'm in the mood for a bright purple dress, extravagant makeup and a bunch of hair accessories, it doesn't mean I'm "confused" about my identity like some people seem to think. My clothes are not my identity, they're a bunch of pretty and comfortable fabric shapes I use to prevent public nudity.

lostonearth35.... brilliant. These people really have no compassion, or *thoughts* as to how another person might feel. Words can obliterate. I'm no saint, but I don't set out to tear others down as a rule.

To answer the original question, "societal norms" have ruined my life - and I would say that I am annoyed to the point of complete (and forced) isolation. What boggles peoples minds is that I prefer it over the ridiculous scheme that is society. What an incredible act going on.

ha ha I so do that to. There were times, I just didn't have time or felt like looking myself nice. But whenever I felt like it, I'd dress up a little or put together a nice casual outfit. So my fashion has its ups and downs. Sometimes I just looked like a bum. Idk if people ever got "confused to say".

Not too annoyed, because I know many of them are there for a reason. Sticking to them also gives me security, familiarity and comfort. I do, however, think some of them are pointless. Like "How are you?" Why would you ask that question when people don't really want to know how you actually are, and expect you to give the same response every time? It's so pointless!

Wow! We think alike, gtw1983!!..

Right now, I'm unemployed and the you have listed the norms that irk me the most.. My top three are below:

College degrees are sooo over rated! Some of the most inept ex-colleagues I knew had degrees. Employers now want degrees for "easy" occupations that can be performerd by motivated people without degrees. I saw an employment ad for basically a janitor position that required a bachelor degree. Are they F***ING kidding?! A degree is required to clean up after people!! ! I theorize employers require degrees for two reasons: 1) "If I went to college, so must you" mentality 2) A money-making ruse (for colleges and universities) that is sutained by employers falsely believing that a degreed person will be more productive.

I loathe the convention of addressing certain people in a lofty, B.S., haughty manner, like: "Your Honor" (are you really honorable?), "Monseigneur" (Fr. My Lord), Reverend (a person to be revered), Father (WTF?! You ain't my father!!), Officer Pig, etc. (..I would have hate to be born in Britain!!)

Why do NTs believe if you're dressed nicely you are: likely to be innocent (as in courts), productive or a better candidate (as in job interviews), a true christian (as in church), etc. My thinking is: "I'm out of bed and dressed, WTF more do you want?" ...SO STUPID!!

Others that also really annoy me:

Age sensitivity of women; either being offended by asking her age, or her giving you a B.S. response.

The B.S. recommendations by resume and cover letter books and idiotic expectations of employers.. Too many to list..

The convention that men should do all the approaching. Women are so picky, why don't they approach men they like?

Thanks for posting this topic, gtw1983... I feel a lil better!!

I very much look forward to the day, when mankind takes the next evolutionary step, and does away all social norms and dogmas, and dissipates the small-mindedness that goes with it.

I have a compulsive habit of speaking out venomously against social norms against people who are as dull as ditch-water and follow all the little rules themselves. It often gets me into trouble, but because I am fairly big and a bit scary looking, people tend to back down

Sorry I forgot to write that the above quote was written by Ai_Ling

That really happened? Wow.