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05 Apr 2007, 6:08 pm

I noticed that a list of Aspie symptoms mentioned an inability or unwillingness to lie. I've always had what I would consider a phobia of lying. I can't stand the idea of lying, being lied to, or being wrongly accused of lying. We're told that being honest is an upstanding quality, yet more "normal" people lie.

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05 Apr 2007, 6:10 pm

I quit lying so much after the empire of lies I built collapsed.



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05 Apr 2007, 6:11 pm

Yes, I do have a TINY phobia of lying, but I've gotten over it and can use it to my advantage ("Do you have 20 cents?" "Nope"). However, in many cases, I don't lie just for fun or to make myself look better in other people's eyes.


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05 Apr 2007, 6:17 pm

No, I don't.

*Nose grows bigger*

Ok, yes, but only white lies...

YES, I LIE.


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05 Apr 2007, 6:19 pm

I have a really hard time lying. Even if if do try to lie people can always see right through me, they call me on it instantly.

And yet in some ways my whole life is a lie, because there are a couple really big important things about my life that I haven't told any of the people I deal with every day. For example they don't know I have AS (but they're starting to think I'm crazy).



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05 Apr 2007, 6:22 pm

No, I don't tell straight lies. Even if they're beneficial.

I will tell the truth, but try to make it sound unimportant. Alternatively I mumble it and hope people don't notice.


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05 Apr 2007, 6:45 pm

I have major issues lying and feel terrible if I have to do it under any circumstances...even when anorexic,. I had terrible trouble lying about whether I had eaten etc, even with my desperation to to maintain my low weight.


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05 Apr 2007, 6:54 pm

I think it must have something to do with our need for the universe to make sense with rules and order. When people lie, it creates chaos.



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05 Apr 2007, 7:35 pm

No. But that's a lie.



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05 Apr 2007, 7:44 pm

My parents taught me to lie by the age of 15.....they would ask questions that I knew what they wanted to hear a specific answer to...if I didnt lie I would get lectured about how I was messed up and how to stop being messed up....I believe that is called averssion therepy?

So I learned to say....yes I ate lunch at school...it was OK(I was really hiding under the stair well to avoid the noise and confussion and the where to sit problem.....

Yes,I met someone today,she is a cheerleader and her father is a cop....I thought that sounded good.

I also learned how to sneak out at night because I loved to walk when there where no people around as well as to meet the boyfriend tha\ey wouldnt let me date because ....his parents were devorced?????YOW

I hate to lie,I dont do it well,I have a bad memory and that doesnt help but it's mostly because it feels like I am being zapped by a cattle prod when I liie...not pleasant.I also tend to believe everyone tells the trueth....they have to prove to me they are liars,and by them I am ussually already manipulated or hurt...oh well.

Whats weird is even when I am telling the trueth ...I often feel like people dont believe me....if someone has stolen something at work,I am always afraid they will blame me....not sure why I feel like that but it sucks.


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05 Apr 2007, 7:45 pm

Well, it's really difficult. The most I can do is a white lie. Also I usually keep silent instead of telling the truth because I know I can't lie.


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05 Apr 2007, 8:08 pm

I lie. Alot. And I'm good at it.



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05 Apr 2007, 8:10 pm

Krex, I have the same problem with worrying that someone will think I have lied or stolen something I haven't. If there's ever an issue, I start to get nervous and uncomfortable, like a guilty person would do. Of course, guilty people are usually good liars and likely don't have a strong conscience, so they probably look less guilty than people like us.

I remember, in high school, an aquaintance/friend knew that I needed a notebook and later stole one for me. When I found out that it was stolen, I felt so guilty, even though I had nothing to do with it. I threw such a fit that she told me to forget she ever tried to give it to me. She didn't seem to feel the least bit guilty about stealing.



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05 Apr 2007, 8:18 pm

I hate lying. For me, it is the only sin. Need to cover the others up sometimes though.



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05 Apr 2007, 8:57 pm

This is one of those things where i may not be Aspie like, but I am not sure...I don't like to lie..I am bad at it...i have manipulated the truth at times....and I am not proud of it..and then paradoxicly there are times when it would be better if I lied but I cant...

BUT

When I was younger I would compulsively and pathologicly make up outlandish stories...I would think of them and they would slip out of my mouth like the truth...really crazy stuff....It was sorta my way of interracting with others..and of course it had a very detrimental effect..one thing I would make up stories about is what caused me to walk on my toes....I had elaborate tales...all kinds of stuff...I was gradually able to wean myself off of compulsive and habitual lying...but not till my teens....
Another thing is the stealing...I would not steal from people...but I was a cleptomaniac from stores for several years when I was young....now i can't do it at all...but when I was younger, for several years, i couldn't help myself...I never stole anything really big and I was never caught...but still..i guess it is a subject for another thread..



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05 Apr 2007, 9:06 pm

"Why do you lie?"
"I'm a compulsive liar... okay, sorry, I just lied."


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