Do you understand what an "alpha" male is?

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All my life I see many males feel the need to "fight" each other to put others in "their place". I never understood dominance or getting the best out of someone because they beat them up.

Does anyone else understand? I think autism makes me incapable of understanding why males and females feel the need to be an "alpha" something. I mean, never follow the best man. I follow the best plan.

Anyone else feel the same way?

I do not equate being an alpha male to physical violence.

In my mind,an alpha male is usually a man who's confident and has good leadership skills.

That is what I mean. There are many people that do equate alpha male to violence which is what I do not understand.

You attitude is the sensible one. Men who feel the need to fight in order to prove their supremacy are not sensible... If you want to understand them, look at a dog pack. Watch the ones who are driven to fight the leader, over and over, in hopes of taking over the pack. That's all it is; an urge to seize control of as much power as possible by tooth and claw.

To some extent, it does work. If a huge, violent guy comes along and tells you to do something, you're probably going to be too afraid not to, at least short term. Long term, it doesn't usually work out so well. Look at Hitler. He was driven to take over the world. Just look where that got him. And if someone tries to push you around, you sound like you have enough sense - even if you need to go along for the moment - to start working out a plan to get free of their bullying.

So I do understand your point; what you may be missing is that the sort of guys you are talking about are idiots. The best thing they can think of is to punch everybody in sight in order to assert control. The ones who obey them may or may not be idiots. Some will just be playing along until they can decide how to best handle the situation, which does make sense. Others are genuinely impressed by the fact their leader can pound them and others into the ground. They are just idiots who aren't strong enough to do the same thing themselves.

When something really doesn't make any sense, a lot of the time, "people are idiots" is the explanation you're looking for.

Who really knows what a true alpha male is?

Here's a little disclaimer: WARNING: YOUR HEAD MAY EXPLODE FROM ALL THIS MIND F**KERY

There are so many different ideas of what an alpha male really is. And to complicate things further, there are different ideas of what measures a man's strength and weakness. And to go from complicated to a can of s**t worms, there are different ideas of what strength and weakness are even relevant to (physical, mental, social).

And that's not it. It's debatable whether these things are gender or personality traits. And how do we even know whether it's relevant to nature or social construction?

Oh God my head hurts. Looks like I should've listened to my own disclaimer lol.

The definition according to Wikipedia:

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I think I understand why most people do it, it has to do with inherent behaviour for group forming - we are all still animals to some extent .
For me, playing King of the Hill isn't my thing - I'm not really competetive, that aggressive or an overachiever. I don't aspire to lead, but I do want to advise - I am more of influence then of power. In social sciences they call this informal leadership.

Cheerfully,
Wallourdes

[quote]All my life I see many males feel the need to "fight" each other to put others in "their place". I never understood dominance or getting the best out of someone because they beat them up.

Does anyone else understand? I think autism makes me incapable of understanding why males and females feel the need to be an "alpha" something. I mean, never follow the best man. I follow the best plan. [quote]


This sounds more like a bully through sometimes it can be too hard to tell apart.

I don't know how to get a white border around the quotes.

Hold the cursor over the outer left icon in taskbar while in the message typing screen.

Use quote between brackets to open and /quote between brackets to end it.

The most popular and influential I'm guessing. There were more than one at school, there were a whole group of popular boys, but the most popular and influential of all was head boy Jack. Everyone near his popularity level liked him and he also picked on un-populars, so he was liked and feared. He would fit the description of what an "alpha" would be, but of course not many people use the Greek alphabet when talking about the social ladder, they usually say popular, nerd etc.

The human alpha male is a two sequence act with one spectator, the female. Let's take her perspective, because it seems that's what matters here.

- A woman sees a strong guy (not especially physically strong could be financially or intellectually) whose qualities place him above the rest of the people in a way she finds protective and with prospect of a "fantastic" evolution in her imagination (very important, the motion in that idea) and she feels that these qualities will not only protect her, but feel her more secure with her very fundamental weaknesses, and this impression of finding the completeness is the key.

- A woman need to see obvious sentimental weaknesses she thinks she is sure she can fix. So not only she will feel that she would find support in the alpha male, But she must be sure she can participate and help meaningfully the male. She will hang the "mission accomplished" banner when she will feel that she finds and wakes up the feelings of the male (the woman seduction part: make up, high pitch voices etc). She feels special, unique to him (even with her incredible flaws she will never admit, even to herself)

- But of course there is a 3rd act, the only one we see first, in most of cases (to my incredible super-vision) She will repeat and repeat her behavior never questioning the logic behind her behavior and will fix just minor things between the attempts. It often ends in a wreck, the woman never getting to change the male to the point she wants, popping a few children just to create a diversion for her failure and ending preferring chatting with her old friends on how a fantastic live she had rather than spending time with the one the thought she loved(same ending for the male with friends in front of the football match on TV) I'm not even talking about the divorce thing

Welcome to the NT paradise folks.

Thank you for your help.

Your welcome

Unfortunately, our society runs on people acting this way. The more you understand society, the more you understand the people that help build it every day.

The "alpha male" is the male who dominates the social environment. I'm certain there are some generalized traits that would be universal, but depending on the values of the society in question, the standards that define the "alpha male" can vary significantly.

The "alpha male" not only has power/influence, but they command it. Some by conquest (being the strongest and challenging others) but some have a gift for it (naturally wield influence over others around them).

For they're actually stupid enough to take the lead, and inflict all sorts of undue stress on their minds. It's important to have initiative and be contributing to society, a project, or the entertainment of a group, or personal. But one doesn't have to be a leader. Why be the Don when you can still enjoy a good life of a gangster as a middle goomba, and enjoy luxury, without all the stress of assassinations or meticulous attention to the gang's activities to avoid detection from law enforcement, or leaving them a trail and a kick me sign on your butt for the cops to come and arrest you, and proscute you. Don Gotti's men knew this, and laid low, like true UNDERWORLD agents.

As for project leaders, the more keys one has the more stress one has. I'm oberving the physical effects of stress on my dad. OUCH at his age, OUCH OUCH OUCH. But it's good to show iniative sometimes, and be active in the affairs of a project would it be community improvement, to personal development.

Plus as for Angry arrogant Alphas.... they always serve as a funny source of humor. lol.

This baffled me for a long time too. But from recent observations I've finally figured it out.

It's a dog eat dog world out there. You either control or get controlled. It's sensible to try to be the alpha male to avoid having your own independence taken away.