What part of socializing are you the most vulnerable?

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07 Oct 2012, 3:41 am

I have noticed that when I try to socialize with people, I am vulnerable in these areas:

(1) Starting a conversation: I usually start a conversation with a question, and I get nervous. Sometimes I even stammer and sound agitated. Later on, the conversation seems normal.

(2) Teasing: If someone is making fun of me or trying to annoy me, I get nervous and don't know what to do.

(3) Talking to women: I barely talk to women, but when I do, I come across as boring or arrogant.

(4) #2 and #3 combination: This is the one I hate the most. Someone sees me looking at a woman and smiles and says, "Do you want to meet her? I can introduce you to her?" Some guy said that to me, and I actually said, "It is all the same to me." Which made him smile and probably think that I was gay, or a dork, or weird.

(5) Talking to people over music. I really hate this. I feel like the music is getting in the way.


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07 Oct 2012, 6:47 am

id say pretty much all of them.
ive recently realised that any girl ive been in a relationship with has been a friend of a friend and met them with them. so i guess its because im more relaxed and im higher up the social hierarchy



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07 Oct 2012, 8:48 am

(1) and (3) are my problems. Plus I am very aware of how much I mumble and talk to fast. I'm always concerned about people not understanding me and having to repeat myself means I don't like talking to strangers who haven't gotten used to me yet as it gets difficult for a conversation to flow.



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07 Oct 2012, 9:43 am

Number 2 as I have a really tough time not taking it too seriously and freaking out on them. I then appear crazy, but I just find them to be a**holes.

Also, I have a hard time knowing when someone is lying to me and I generally am very gullible. I can't keep up with the whole backstabing, getting ahead mentality that other people easily possess.


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07 Oct 2012, 9:46 am

Next time somebody helps you, you go ahead and make fool of yourself or ask him what she wants to talk about. You will have to get used to it somehow.



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09 Oct 2012, 1:48 am

Probably 1, for me its more like knowing whether to start a conversation, timing and approaching. Whether I should say a comment or not, shiftyness and sorta the flow of social interaction, small talk, bits of socializing, groups ahhh.



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09 Oct 2012, 3:53 am

I have trouble over over-thinking how not to sound like "coming onto you" when talking with a girl.
So I automatically say things in a boring way to escape the conversation, especially if they jump on me at a bad time.
Usually I try to avoid eye contact when talking, else it gets reaaaallllyyy awkward.

That reminded me that I always get nervous when people talk to me out of the blue.
I can't seem to answer more than yes/no to everything they say.
And after the brief conversation ends I immediately start to think "Dammit I should have said that instead of that" etc.

What is it with (5)? I have that problem as well when I try to listen to other people who practically yell next to my ear at a club...



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09 Oct 2012, 5:10 am

My speech is rather formal most of the times and I have a love of both big and archaic words. Another issue is that I tend not to be able to read good natured teaching and take it literally. I also have what I will call an "oppositional reflex", for lack of a better term. When confronted with a question that demands an immediate answer, my answer is almost always no. This is true even if it is something I would want to say yes to if given a little time to think about it. I also tend to data dump too much and can be way too detailed in order to give an accurate response to a question.


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09 Oct 2012, 6:36 am

I've kind of learned things socially over time so it's become a bit better, but I'm at my worst when somebody says or does something I don't expect. How I respond often comes off as weird to people I think.



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17 Dec 2012, 3:43 pm

Getting closer in relationships.


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17 Dec 2012, 3:48 pm

rpcarnell wrote:
What part of socializing are you the most vulnerable?

Trust.

Because it is sometimes difficult for me to communicate my thoughts effectively in a verbal conversation, people often see me as trying to be deceptive (pausing, back-tracking, elaborate explanations, et cetera) and untrustworthy.

Then they laugh at me.

Then they find out that I'm right.

Then they're angry with me for making them look foolish.

Then they don't trust me at all.


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17 Dec 2012, 7:01 pm

#1 and #3. Although in relation to (1), sometimes I can start a conversation and can't keep it going.



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17 Dec 2012, 11:10 pm

I can't read people well, and I'm fooled quite easily by deceptive people.

Also, I come across as quite blunt most of the time when I talk. I'm always straight
to the point and honest. No room for small-talk or tact.



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18 Dec 2012, 1:16 am

Fnord wrote:
rpcarnell wrote:
What part of socializing are you the most vulnerable?

Trust.

Because it is sometimes difficult for me to communicate my thoughts effectively in a verbal conversation, people often see me as trying to be deceptive (pausing, back-tracking, elaborate explanations, et cetera) and untrustworthy.

Then they laugh at me.

Then they find out that I'm right.

Then they're angry with me for making them look foolish.

Then they don't trust me at all.


Well put! I would add that they notice how much I am noticing (which I have learned to identify by changes in the NT facial expression) and which sometimes, I can head off with "Sorry, I have a photographic memory." Which is true. However, even if that works to put the NTs back at ease, it comes full circle when I am verbally unable to express something with the precision they can intuit I think/perceive in, which leads them to openly distrust me because they attribute my lack of verbal accuracy to a ruse of some sort. I have at rare moments met just the right NTs and they have instantly understood me, typically it is a shared humor over something and we have an instant rapport which endures.

This leads me to the conclusion that if I can't laugh with people, it's not a party, and if I'm not partying, I prefer to pursue something more interesting, anyway, on my own, without interference.

I have two close friends on the Spectrum and I made those friends over laughter too. Seems to be the universal bridge, humor.



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18 Dec 2012, 2:52 pm

Number 5. UGH!! !! I hate screaming in people's ears, especially if they're someone you're first meeting. I hate clubs.


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18 Dec 2012, 2:56 pm

anneurysm wrote:
Number 5. UGH!! !! I hate screaming in people's ears, especially if they're someone you're first meeting. I hate clubs.


Depends on the type of a club. When I decide to visit some, though... I always go there with other people. I would feel extremely bad if I went to some club alone.


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