Here is how I am being treated as of late
Hi, this is what has happened to me recently. It started several days ago with Raccoon-Fox, a services admin on MorphForest fighting with another services admin there who is telling me that Raccoon-Fox has threatened their friend on AIM. Then the fight ends up taken right into FurNet #Spiritual where it causes more problems. Then the one services admin on MorphForest bans Raccoon-Fox from FurNet and today when Raccoon-Fox finds out about that, gets all upset kicking me from #FoxChat and leads to me not being able to find anyone to talk to.
I try to talk to whatever friends I have in MorphForest #Fuzzy where I am feeling like I want to shut everything of mine down and end my life, they seem to beret me into doing it and it is really nerve recking. Then Alynna starts bringing up her theories and whatever she believes what her past lives were and saying stuff about Brightmoon, Faeries, Dragons, and then talks about her quantim physics and a bunch of other crap. Then I mention about MagicPaw and Fox` looking out for me and suddenly the channel is saying that I'm being manipulated with false beliefs from MagicPaw and Fox`. It is so nerve wrecking that I'm being told by Alynna that I'm a psi-vamp and that I don't know what to do anymore.
Then recently, this happens.
[15:51] <Wezzle_Teh_1337> thank god
[15:51] <Wezzle_Teh_1337> some one to talk to
[15:52] <Wezzle_Teh_1337> ne 1 here like the band maroon 5
[15:52] <Wezzle_Teh_1337> or Kaena
[15:52] <Wezzle_Teh_1337> *Keane
[15:53] <Wezzle_Teh_1337> ................
[15:53] * Wezzle_Teh_1337 has left #Decent_Furs
[16:13] * Rei has quit IRC (Quit: School)
[17:02] * SilverStar|zZzZ is now known as SilverStar
[17:03] * Blackwolf is now known as Blackwolf|NAP
[17:56] * NamanIsGone has left #Decent_Furs (Wait, you weren't supposed to take 'eat me' liter--*GULP*)
[17:56] * Naman has joined #Decent_Furs
[17:56] * FurBot sets mode: +v Naman
[18:26] * SilverStar sets mode: -v ErikMouse
[18:27] <SilverStar> Yeah, Erik. it says right in the topic to keep the drama out.
[18:27] * SilverStar sets mode: +vv Blackwolf|NAP tigre
[18:29] <SilverStar> And since the only thing you seem interested in saying, is that you're gonna go kill yourself... well, if you're ready to stop angsting, just send me a message or a memo or something and I'll probably let you back in. Until then...
[18:29] * FurBot sets mode: +b *!*[email protected]
[18:29] * You were kicked by FurBot (Sorry. (SilverStar))
Session Close: Thu May 12 18:29:31 2005
Session Start: Tue May 24 00:16:11 2005
Session Ident: #Decent_Furs
[00:16] * Now talking in #Decent_Furs
[00:16] * Topic is 'A channel for nice, decent people. Wanted: People who are nice, use common sense and care about stuff. Trolls, people who just like to complain and people who just want to cause trouble are not welcome. Enjoy your stay. Oh, and keep the drama out of here, mmkay?'
[00:16] * Set by SilverStar on Sat Jun 12 20:10:58
[00:16] -FurBot- Hello there, welcome to the Forest Haven where it is peaceful, safe, and a quiet place in the forest to chat and step away from the insanity. For more information about this channel and the rules, please visit http://foresthaven.km-website.com/
[00:16] -FurBot- Welcome to #Kit-Fox FurNet's Premier Sonic/Furry/Gaming channel! our new website is www.planetmobius.com
[00:17] * SilverStar arches an eyeridge
[00:18] <SilverStar> Going to keep up with the one-way angst party, Erik?
[00:20] <SilverStar> Because you ARE still banned from here and are currently evading and have never bothered to speak with me about letting you back.
[00:21] * SilverStar gives... 10 minutes, for a response.
[00:31] * SilverStar yawns
[00:32] * SilverStar sets mode: +b *!*@hrbg-216-222-234-84-pppoe.dsl.hrbg.epix.net
[00:32] * You were kicked by SilverStar (Because I don't like being ignored in my own channel.)
Session Close: Tue May 24 00:32:18 2005
<SilverStar> because I'm sick of seeing your angst. You b***h and whine, but never bother to respond when people try to talk to you, to help you out.
<ErikMouse> I wasn't being angst, but people are bitching and whining to me.
<SilverStar> yeah, and people have been offering suggestions and to talk. and you've been ignoring the damn channel. And talking aboug going off to kill yourself, because everyone is against you, is angst. it's because you refuse to acknowlege when people offer help, that people are turning away from you.
<ErikMouse> Well, I do listen to people trying to help and have been answering PMs
<ErikMouse> I keep forgetting to check your channel.
<SilverStar> yeah, well that's why there's all those anonymous GROUPS. it helps better than talking one on one. You haven't responded to a damned thing in the channel, even if it's moments after you complain. Though, I suspect that's just a broad-spectrum /amsg or something, to hit every channel you're in, to draw as much pity as possible.
<ErikMouse> Yeah, it was a /amsg and I was trying to make friends
<SilverStar> by complaining about how pathetic your life is? that'll get people to pity you, but when you do it all the time, it wears the pity out and people get sick of it.
<ErikMouse> I wasn't exactly doing it all the time
<SilverStar> a half dozen times.
<SilverStar> and each time, you had a channel of people trying to offer help, but you never bothered to pay attention.
<ErikMouse> I just checked my logs and seen what was said, but that was just now and I keep forgetting to check the channel because there is usually no conversation in the channel.
<SilverStar> heh. you were first banned 11 days ago.
<SilverStar> see, your /amsg angsty cries for help, make it harder for those who actually DO need help to be taken seriously.
<SilverStar> You would have had 4-5 more friends, Erik, but because you ignored those who responded to your cries for help, you lost out on that. You're not welcome back in my channel.
<ErikMouse> There wasn't 4-5 people talking to me according to my logs in there.
After that, no more responses from that person. Then I was kicked from another channel by this uncalled for ban.
* You were kicked from #furry by Rask (I'm surprised you have the nerve to show your face around here. Get out.)
And I have a third channel on top of that thinking that I am supposed to be banned from it years ago, and got them looking through their logs even though I wasn't banned from that third channel in the past. Now from all of this, I wonder if anyone wants to be friendly anymore.
Erik
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With IRC channels and similar places, they're really run according to however the operators feel like running it. Which means if they don't want you, you probably don't want to be there in the first place. But evading bans (whether just or unjust bans) is actually a pretty bad move, it makes people think you're up to no good.
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Well, I didn't realize I got kicked from that channel before and it went unnoticed until I fell off and came back on. And when I came back on, Identd failed and I ended up auto-joining that channel (which I usually do on connect) over the first ban. So it is technically not a ban evasion.
Erik
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...give a shot there...
you never know...
if its friends you want...
thats easily taken care of. ya got my vote.
Well, that chatroom isn't working out for me as it is either too lively or something and I end up very much ignored.
Sincerely,
Erik
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What kind of chat rooms were these, Erik? They weren't Asperger chats I assume. Yes, do try #wrongplanet. It's a good one and most people there would not be offended by any lack of replies. I mean, hey: we're Aspies, lol.
Also, another good one (and I hope this isn't spamming; if it is it can just be removed) is #asperger on Starlink. I am usually either on #wrongplanet or #asperger. Those are my chats of choice.
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Well, it was #wrongplanet that wasn't working for me as it seemed that I was being ignored there.

Well, I am in #fuzzy on MorphForest which is just about the only channel so far that has been good to me.
Erik
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If you've felt ignored on #wrongplanet it isn't intentional I'm sure; it does get busy and people get engrossed in (usually silly) topics. You are more than welcome, but might need to leap in from time to time.
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He makes a point that has had me in many fits.
This site and the forums and chatrooms to allow us to discuss our issues with society. But how does a chatroom work when most people in it are unsure of what to say? Kind of a self-destructive concept to me... It's like shouting 'Calm down!!'
But Erik, try getting into the forums when it's off peak. I had a nice casual conversation with someone names ecstasia, without much interruption from others. Maybe you've just come in when it's too busy for any one conversation to be fully appreciated.
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Similar thing happened to me on my fetish site I am still trying to fight the good fight in the forums for the site but too many stupid people go there that cant see I was defending myself while other's were attacking me, and it was all regulars attacking me so Im SOL unless I can stir things up enough to get someone to care :points to the song lyrics on my sig: thats how NTs can be to us, we just gotta figure out how to stop smiling in the internet world too.
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Look, Erik... while the context of ASD does help me understand what you're going through, you gotta ease up. I remember you were making long posts about being mistreated on ALF years ago. Not to mention posting under different names to make people think others were supporting you.
There's nothing wrong. Nobody is persecuting you. I actually kinda liked some of your Adventures of Erik Mouse stories... kinda. The only problem people have is that they get tired of the deception, baseless ad hominems, and claims of persecution you make. So they ban you, and you mistake that for just another persecution.
I know it seems like people hate you, but it's only by dwelling on that fear that you become hated at all. Just live life, do what you like, and accept people for the hating, loving, and not against you people that they are. It feels a lot better than the syrupy euphoria that you feel when turning the opinions of ignorant people to your own. To be tolerated, all you have to do is stop complaining about not being tolerated.
To others: remember you aren't seeing the whole story here, only one side of it. How many IRC ops, furry or not, do you know who will say "* You were kicked from #furry by Rask (I'm surprised you have the nerve to show your face around here. Get out.)" without having a very, very good reason for doing so? Chanops can be bastards sure, but that clearly was referring to a past offense that Erik never saw fit to mention.
Oh and finally... I don't know the whole story myself. I've only been silent witness in enough ways that it leads me to think this is a case of self-induced paranioa, and not external persecution. I could still be wrong though. All Erik has to do to prove that is provide the chat logs where it shows what he was doing to get banned by the ops.
Who does?
But Erik, try getting into the forums when it's off peak. I had a nice casual conversation with someone names ecstasia, without much interruption from others. Maybe you've just come in when it's too busy for any one conversation to be fully appreciated.
I even tried it while off peak and I end up not finding anyone to talk to.
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Erik
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