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quirkyandlaughing
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02 Feb 2012, 9:40 pm

Hi all!

I'm newly diagnosed & am still trying to figure out which parts of me can be explained by Asperger's. I get really mad when people tell me what to do, but then I find myself doling out unsolicited advice all the time. Do any of you do that? Do you know if it's an Aspie thing?



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02 Feb 2012, 9:43 pm

i hate repeated advice. i'm smart enough to get it the first time. i only give advice when asked or if in an area where i'm an expert.



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02 Feb 2012, 9:51 pm

cathylynn wrote:
i only give advice when asked or if in an area where i'm an expert.


That's my goal. Sometimes I bug myself!



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02 Feb 2012, 9:53 pm

It depends on the advic.e I HATE people giving me useless feel-good advice like cluiche sayings but I really like getting practical advice & I wish more people would. I also like giving practical advice but people sometimes get upset with me because they are just wanting to complain about something instead of wanting advice to deal with the problem.


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02 Feb 2012, 10:44 pm

Yes, I hate being given advice. It is usually given in a critical tone, that gets my back up, and it is often repeat advice--nagging. It is very rude to nag people. If I've heard it before, there is no need to repeat it. For reason's of my own, I have chosen not to follow the advice. Perhaps a good reason, or perhaps to be contrary, due to the critical tone of the advisor.

I do sometimes give advise, myself, but try not to do it too often. My mother used to ask my option or advice on things. I would answer her in a nice way--after all, she asked, why be rude in response? Then, my mother would usually do the opposite of what I advised, and would start a fight when I asked why she did that. I eventually realized what was going on, and started advising the opposite of what I thought she should do, so she took a different tack and started picking fights over my suggestions. Finally I got to the point of telling her to make up her own mind, and she got mad at that, too. I couldn't win, because for some reason, she always wanted to have fights. I hate constant fighting, but at the time I was financially unable to live on my own. My mother had mental health issues, but I still don't understand why she always wanted to have fights all the time. It made everyone around her miserable, and her, too. That was a terrible way to live.

My mother passed away in 2003, and since late 2005 I have lived alone, and don't see people often, so I rarely have to deal with fights any more. It's so peaceful living as a hermit. :-D I never want to live with other people again!

My advice to people on the spectrum who are having trouble dealing with other people, is: Become a hermit! :-D


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03 Feb 2012, 1:38 am

No or else I wouldn't be talking to people.

I think lot of people hate getting advice and people get upset when they get the advice they didn't want to hear.



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03 Feb 2012, 4:53 am

It depends a lot on how the advice is given, what it's about and how useful it is.

I hate getting "advice" that is pretty much criticism masked as advice. If you're going to criticize, at least just come out and criticize. Don't pretend it's something else than criticism.

I hate unsolicitated advice about things that other people think I should do, but there is no need for and I clearly have no desire for. This is typically some stuff about my appearance or advice about how to act more female.

I hate when people give advice about things they know nothing about and makes no sense. Don't tell me I should go out and make some friends. If I knew how to do that I would, but with my AS it's easier said than done. Don't tell me I should exercise more and that will make my physical illnesses go away. It doesn't work that way.

I don't mind useful, genuine, well meant advice about things that I could use some guidance with. I've for example received useful advice about office politics, social rules, work related stuff etc. in the past and I appreciated it and didn't take it badly at all. I actually wouldn't mind getting more of this kind of advice.



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03 Feb 2012, 5:21 pm

I really don't mind advice......I just hate it when it comes with the expectation that I follow the advice without question regardless of how I personally feel about how the advice applies or does not apply to me or whatever situation I'm in.


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04 Feb 2012, 12:32 am

nick007 wrote:
It depends on the advic.e I HATE people giving me useless feel-good advice like cluiche sayings but I really like getting practical advice & I wish more people would. I also like giving practical advice but people sometimes get upset with me because they are just wanting to complain about something instead of wanting advice to deal with the problem.


I run into this a lot as well. For me, at least, I think it's that instead of simply empathizing I tend to want to try and solve their problem for them. I obviously care, and I want things to be better for the other person, but I forget that most people out there either aren't looking for solutions or are just wanting to work through their emotions. I've been a really good ear at times, but I have to remember to keep my mouth shut more often than not, otherwise I'll end up confusing the person more than helping them.

Likewise, I've been very frustrated sometimes being on the receiving end. I've been very upset emotionally and all I wanted was answers and to be able to work through it logically so that it made sense. People around me were overly caring, but absolutely no help, and I think it's because all they wanted to offer was that empathetic ear. I've had to learn to not come off as emotional if what I'm wanting is a logical conversation about a situation, or else most people think I just want to vent.



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04 Feb 2012, 1:58 am

I hate getting advice, unless I've specifically asked for it. I don't mind if they are just giving information. Like if I mentioned to someone I needed new tires for my car, and they suggested a good tire shop, or recommended a type of tire, that's useful information, and I would appreciate that. But if it sounds like they are saying "you SHOULD go to this tire shop and buy this brand of tire because I know better than you" that pisses me off. It's a fine line.



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04 Feb 2012, 10:48 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
I really don't mind advice......I just hate it when it comes with the expectation that I follow the advice without question regardless of how I personally feel about how the advice applies or does not apply to me or whatever situation I'm in.

I feel that way too. Giving advice is one thing, but almost insisting on someone following it crosses the line. I hate when people try to pressure me into following their advice and don't care how I feel about it or whether it really applies to the situation I'm in.



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04 Feb 2012, 12:14 pm

Amik wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
I really don't mind advice......I just hate it when it comes with the expectation that I follow the advice without question regardless of how I personally feel about how the advice applies or does not apply to me or whatever situation I'm in.

I feel that way too. Giving advice is one thing, but almost insisting on someone following it crosses the line. I hate when people try to pressure me into following their advice and don't care how I feel about it or whether it really applies to the situation I'm in.


Yeah that usually pisses me off because, then people try and tell me I'm doing something wrong or not trying hard enough if I don't or cannot follow all the advice given. I mean I just don't know what to do in those situations other then try and explain I do really appreciate the advice and attempt to help.......but it either does not apply to my situation, is too overwhelming to try at the moment, or has been tried before and did not work. Then people tell my I'm just being difficult and pretty much deserve the situation I am in then because I won't obediently accept every last bit of advice.


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07 Feb 2012, 2:40 pm

It depends on the situation and how helpful the advice actually is - for example, I've always had problems with dry skin on my hands, and telling me to "stop scratching and it will go away" is NOT helpful in the slightest.



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07 Feb 2012, 3:43 pm

I tend to be a bit too enthusiastic in giving advice :roll:

I also like getting advice (even unsolicited) if it is very practical and clear (step by step is better, if applicable). Sometimes I might feel hurt or offended in the first place but then if it is clear enough to put it into practice I might feel grateful in the end. If it is vague and refers only to a final outcome with no how-to, I am likely to find it frustrating.


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07 Feb 2012, 5:23 pm

i love getting advice. as long as its not given in a condescending or rude way



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07 Feb 2012, 10:10 pm

Not really. Maybe I'm bad at explaining myself or other people don't listen, but when I employ their advice and things go totally wrong they're never around to help pick up the pieces and do a "post mortem" to figure out what went wrong. I suspect it's out of embarrassment, since they don't expect that someone who comes off as non-retarded could mess up normally easy things.