I got a free friend, and no idea what to do with her.

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KWifler
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06 Feb 2014, 3:14 am

Yeah, so there's this club. It's called SIFF club for short. So basically, a "disabled" person who signs up gets a college student to volunteer to be their "friend" for as long as they want. So I was matched up with this one college girl.

Anyways, I have no idea what to do, where to begin being friends with someone, and it SEEMS LIKE SHE DOESN'T EITHER. SO I sent her an email today saying that I don't think we can be friends.

I probably should have asked around here sooner, but I got stuck in a cycle of depression for a week or so and it caused me physical pain just to think about socializing.

The thing is, I don't like meeting new people. I don't like going to new places. I don't like trying new things that normal people like to try. I can barely even tolerate eating around other people, and that's the most common thing to do.

I knew from the start that this was probably going to be too challenging for me to keep up. We've met twice, and it was extremely stressful just trying to get her to agree to decide to go to any place. It must have taken a dozen emails just to meet up, and it's not like we're dating or anything.

SoOoOooOo, anyone have any suggestions? I want to be friends with someone, but this just seems wrong somehow.


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06 Feb 2014, 4:39 am

What else are you going to do that's a better idea?
Have you thought of how she is going to feel if you reject her?
Are you going to go through you whole life without friends?
What's wrong is that you have nothing to fear and you know it.


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06 Feb 2014, 4:48 am

So if you knew it was going to be so bad, why did you sign up in the first place. Also, here is how to initiate a first visit "Hey, I'm gonna watch the new Vampire Diaries tonight, wanna come over and hang?"


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06 Feb 2014, 7:59 am

Certainly you don't have to do the club if you don't want.

If you do want to participate, the club probably offers ideas for what to do and it's really the job of the college student to help structure the time or ask for help to do that. She may though feel confused by your behavior that she misperceived as rejection and didn't want to be pushy (before you sent the email). If there are senior mentors or a club director I think someone else to help sort things out would be good. Otherwise, if you still want to participate understand the possibility that even if the college student is interested in doing this, unless she has experience with people with ASD, you might be speaking a foreign social language to her and true communication will require a lot of effort. Sometimes getting past initial hurdles things do go well, if you wanted to give this another try, it might still work out.



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06 Feb 2014, 9:09 am

My opinion, I think that sounds like a stupid club. You can't force friendships. And these people are only being "friends" with you because they feel sorry for you. It's quite sad actually.



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06 Feb 2014, 3:52 pm

I tried to handle the situation sensitively, asking all the standard sensitive questions in emails, but she disregarded them completely.
If I ask her what she wants to do, she just turns it back on me, and asks me what I want to do.
She is almost 10 years younger than me, adolescence and college can be confusing times in any person's life.
Maybe I'm imagining this would be more awkward than it is because I'm male, and there are stigmas in society about this sort of thing. I don't want to ask her to do something that would make her label me as a creep. Too many people already think I'm a creep.


@ Waterfalls: I think I agree, maybe I should email the leader of the club and ask to start this friend thing all over again, this time being more direct about my challenges and needs.

@ OliveOilMom: Haha, I might consider your idea if you would be the chaperon.

@ Soccer22: maybe you're right, but I want to develop a concept of what real life friendship is for NT's, and this club represents a free supply of volunteer NT friends.


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06 Feb 2014, 5:55 pm

Can you ask for a new friend?



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06 Feb 2014, 6:06 pm

Yes. I think I'll ask for a friend who is into computers and intellectual stuff.


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06 Feb 2014, 6:37 pm

KWifler wrote:
Yes. I think I'll ask for a friend who is into computers and intellectual stuff.


Good idea!



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08 Feb 2014, 3:10 am

That sounds like quite a good idea actually. Though If you don't feel comfortable with this particular friend you could ask to be matched with someone new.
But do consider the feelings of the 'friend' you rejected. She probably had good intentions and rejection hurts NTs as much as it hurts us.
Maybe you could make contact again and try to explain? It might help. Though don't do it if you think it would make things worse.



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08 Feb 2014, 3:17 am

I hope I'm doing the right thing.... I tried to be sensitive about it...
I'm still waiting for responses back from my emails to the club.
Sometimes college students can get too busy with school stuff...


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08 Feb 2014, 5:06 am

I'm a "buy the food and then eat in my car kind of guy". Reading through your posts your obviously are having a harder time of dealing with life than me though. Ah well, you got personworm here and every one seems to think he's pretty good. Even the members who have never heard of or had any back and forth with me. And that's the disturbing thing. I got my eye on all you, hehehe. Sorry for being an idiot.



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08 Feb 2014, 5:21 pm

Maybe you took that friendship too seriously? You could ask for a new friend and attempt to be more easygoing with that relationship while you try to sense how close you should get.



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08 Feb 2014, 7:03 pm

@ Taylor1002: I could paraphrase your comment as "be a jerk." At least that's my experience.
You may be right, but I don't know what it would be like to be more easygoing.
It's a social behavior/routine/protocol, and all of my social behaviors are learned through study, well, except for the ones that annoy people I guess.

The only way I know how to be acceptable in a group is by doing absolutely nothing for several weeks, observing their behaviors, analyzing which ones are acceptable to the group, and then practicing one behavior at a time around them until I'm just like them.
What I'd rather do is learn how they think so that I can truly understand what causes the behaviors in them, then I could create a mental "program" that duplicates it. Most people I've tried to talk to either don't know how they think, or they know, but find the subject to be too distasteful to be discussed openly.

@ personworm: Ha that reminds me of when I was in school and my mom was alive, she would move my wall of cereal boxes so she could look at me, but seeing people watch me while I eat makes me not digest.
I just haven't gotten enough practical support that I need in order to cope with life. You read every post? Wow you must have strong eyes. I would need bionic eyes to do that. Mine get tired and sore. I even have to do special eye massages if I read too much.


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09 Feb 2014, 3:42 pm

KWifler wrote:
@ Taylor1002: I could paraphrase your comment as "be a jerk." At least that's my experience.
You may be right, but I don't know what it would be like to be more easygoing.
It's a social behavior/routine/protocol, and all of my social behaviors are learned through study, well, except for the ones that annoy people I guess.

The only way I know how to be acceptable in a group is by doing absolutely nothing for several weeks, observing their behaviors, analyzing which ones are acceptable to the group, and then practicing one behavior at a time around them until I'm just like them.
What I'd rather do is learn how they think so that I can truly understand what causes the behaviors in them, then I could create a mental "program" that duplicates it. Most people I've tried to talk to either don't know how they think, or they know, but find the subject to be too distasteful to be discussed openly.


I didn't mean to tell you to be a jerk. I'm not sure what it means to be easygoing either, but I try to be calm around people and have been called easygoing in recent years. When I think about that characteristic I imagine partially holding back on emotions that could upset the other person, like misery and anger, while trying to be empathetic towards that person. I hope that comes across differently from me telling you to be mean to anyone.

I just try to figure out how to behave around people and make friends, kind of like you do. It would be great to understand people but I can't tell you how to do that because I don't really understand people.



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09 Feb 2014, 7:16 pm

Oh, I get it. :)


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