Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Age: 36 Gender: Male Posts: 22
03 Apr 2007, 10:50 pm
I've wondered whether or not anyone else is like this. I know many aspies have a hard time judging facial expressions and social cues, but that is not my problem at all. If anything I'm very good at telling how and/or what someone is feeling/thinking. The thing is I have trouble understanding why, I guess matching the expression to the situation.
Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Gender: Female Posts: 659 Location: Somewhere in the Atlantic
04 Apr 2007, 5:22 am
I have this problem too, but in my case in addition to having difficulty understanding facial expressions and non-verbal communication in general.
The problem with empathy is that it is described as thinking how you would feel in another person's situation. But we are all different, so what I would do and how I would cope in a situation is different from how another person might fare in the exact same situation. It is very hard to predict and understand this for each individual person.
Yes, I'm a little like that too. I'm pretty good at reading people's facial expressions, but I never know what to think about why they might be feeling that way.
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04 Apr 2007, 6:55 am
I'm excellent at this. I know how people are feeling, I know when it is appropriate to give empathy. I just don't. I can't. I just don't know how to do it.
Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Age: 64 Gender: Male Posts: 3,495 Location: the Antipodes
04 Apr 2007, 11:36 pm
I think I can see how people are feeling most of the time, but if their reaction (tears, wailing, falling apart) is not how I would react, I have no sympathy and just think they should "get over it".
Don't mean to sound like I'm uncaring. I can't watch news reports about bad things that happen to kids for example.
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I'm excellent at this. I know how people are feeling, I know when it is appropriate to give empathy. I just don't. I can't. I just don't know how to do it.
Sometimes it works, and it's good those times.
I don't feel comfortable doing so with most people. If I'm really close, I can manage usually - though there are failures there, every now and then.
I think that being able to read peoples emotional state and being able to empathize with that state are two different abilities. I'm not very good at the identifying part outside of the extremes (crying, yelling, etc.), but I'm even worse at the empathy part.
I'm pretty good at telling, but it's got a lot less to do with expression and a lot more to do with smell.
Are you saying that you can smell what someone is feeling? I've never heard of that before.
That's the best way to express it, yes. Bodies give off different odors based upon fear/other emotions. I definitely get the information through my nose too. Perfume completely confuses me, as does a stopped up nose.
Joined: 2 Nov 2004 Gender: Female Posts: 17,054 Location: None
07 Apr 2007, 6:45 am
Riven wrote:
I've wondered whether or not anyone else is like this. I know many aspies have a hard time judging facial expressions and social cues, but that is not my problem at all. If anything I'm very good at telling how and/or what someone is feeling/thinking. The thing is I have trouble understanding why, I guess matching the expression to the situation.
Most of the people here seem to not have a problem with those from what I've noticed. I think that "trait" is incorrect. I don't have it , either.
It is hard to be objective...I think I might possible misinterprate(sp?) people s facial expressions...or i don't know what it is I am supposed to be getting from them...or how much I am supposed to read into it..and i may read too much or not enough..and then..well...often I am too detached form people to bother with anything much beyond whether they want another beer (i act as bartender at my venue)
Joined: 3 Feb 2007 Age: 57 Gender: Male Posts: 895 Location: The Gates of Babylon
07 Apr 2007, 10:31 am
I am extremely good at seeing things from another persons point of view. I can understand all of the logical elements to their pont of view. However I cannot understand any of the emotional elements. Facial expressions, body language and subtle emotions are lost on me. The only emotions I can decipher are the extreme ones.
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There are exceptions, but for the most part this would be an accurate visual representation of what I really feel inside when I pretend to empathize with most people...
Joined: 29 Mar 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 820 Location: Long Beach, CA
07 Apr 2007, 2:59 pm
I can't read body language for s**t. But if its someone I'm fairly close to... I can feel their emotional state, if its an intense one. Like if my best friend is happy, playful, in a foul mood, upset... I'll pick it up from her just by her walking by, I don't even have to look at her. I'll just get "vibes."
I can't read body language for sh**. But if its someone I'm fairly close to... I can feel their emotional state, if its an intense one. Like if my best friend is happy, playful, in a foul mood, upset... I'll pick it up from her just by her walking by, I don't even have to look at her. I'll just get "vibes."
Now, see if the same works when your nose is messed up.