What do you think of how aspies are treated by other people?

Page 1 of 4 [ 59 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next

Staige
Butterfly
Butterfly

User avatar

Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Gender: Female
Posts: 11
Location: Oceanside, CA

18 Jul 2004, 4:45 pm

do you think that aspies are treated different then regular people???? do you think they are treated unfairly ??? do you think they are misjudged just because of them having AS????

please answer with your honest opinion......

thanx,
staige 8)



Staige
Butterfly
Butterfly

User avatar

Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Gender: Female
Posts: 11
Location: Oceanside, CA

18 Jul 2004, 4:55 pm

to respond with my opinion to the answer of my own question i would say some times aspies are are treated unfairly , they are called crazy, psychotic, insane and all sorts of other names...... me being diagnosed with AS and bipolar disorder i have been called those names many times but i still have no problem telling my friends and other people that i am diagnosed with either one ..... i think if i treat people fairly they will learn to under stand that people with these syndromes and disorders are regular people as the people that have mistreated me and others are.... its basically like teasing a child in kindergarten like my little sister calling each other "poopy head" and so on and so forth .......but it can become worse
people start playing pranks on people with disorders or a syndrome such as AS or even people with a bad temper just to see them make a scene or blow up .... maybe just to get them in trouble...... its happened to me a couple of times and others in my school with bipolar or some other diagnosis.........its not fun being treated this way and its not fair therefore i can state in my opinion that AS people are treated unfairly at least in high school for that matter....

luv,
staige 8)



flamingjune
Blue Jay
Blue Jay

User avatar

Joined: 25 Jun 2004
Gender: Female
Posts: 96

18 Jul 2004, 6:26 pm

Staige wrote:
people start playing pranks on people with disorders or a syndrome such as AS or even people with a bad temper just to see them make a scene or blow up .... maybe just to get them in trouble...... its happened to me a couple of times and others in my school with bipolar or some other diagnosis.........its not fun being treated this way and its not fair therefore i can state in my opinion that AS people are treated unfairly at least in high school for that matter....

I'm nearly ten years out of high school and people still do this to me. At least once a week a certain person goes out of his way to push me into a freak out because it's 'funny'.
I also get told on a daily basis that I need to 'learn to be normal', 'grow up' and 'learn to deal'. I have a lot of resentment about that. It's probably not healthy though so I just try not to let it become an invasive part of my personality.
Also, I am tired of being called 'ret*d'.



Scoots5012
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 1 Jul 2004
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,397
Location: Cedar Rapids Iowa

18 Jul 2004, 7:53 pm

Quote:
people start playing pranks on people with disorders or a syndrome such as AS or even people with a bad temper just to see them make a scene or blow up .... maybe just to get them in trouble...... its happened to me a couple of times and others in my school with bipolar or some other diagnosis.........its not fun being treated this way and its not fair therefore i can state in my opinion that AS people are treated unfairly at least in high school for that matter....


For me all the fun I had was in Junior High School. Just to name some of the things that happened to me.

- I was tripped down a flight of stairs
- I had my locker broken into to, all my papers and books thrown into the pond across the street
- I had woods class projects vandalized
- Someone tried to super glue me to a stool in drafting class
- I got stuffed into a garbage can, fire dept had to cut the top of the can off to free me
- In 7th grade social studies two particularly nasty students would take bets to see who could make me cry first.
- I would be "gotten" into trouble by people. I spent alot of time in detention that I didn't earn.

And of course the school administration wouldn't do crap about it.

And of course many of the above things continue to happen to me in high school, and now at work in either altered or subdued manners.

So in summary... I would have to say YES, aspies are treated different that others and I would also say that some people ENJOY doing it too.



CockneyRebel
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Jul 2004
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Posts: 116,919
Location: In my little Olympic World of peace and love

18 Jul 2004, 8:00 pm

My honest opinion is that Aspies are treated unfairly. I've had people try to persuade me to do things that i didn't want to do. Those people did it to see if I was weak enough to satisfy their wishes so they could go off to the bar and tell them what a so-called ret*d they saw me to be. I told them to knock it off and they didn't want anything to do with me after that.

I'm also treated like a lunitic by my Family Members. I'd tell them about a problem that I was having, and they would say, "It's all in your head."
They could listen to my sister rant on for hours. :x



Postperson
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 9 Jul 2004
Age: 67
Gender: Female
Posts: 4,023
Location: Uz

18 Jul 2004, 8:27 pm

Yes, I think we're mistreated becuase basically all the other people are dog-people who go around in packs demonstrating territorial and mating aggression, smiffing each others bottoms and jockeying for position in the pack.

It's probably a good idea to have some speech therapy (if you haven't already) as most AS people have the characteristic flat, dull or weak voice which gives people the impression they can walk over you. Dog-people respond better to a strong or resonant or serious sounding voice. 'Down Rover! Stop That Now!'



animallover
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 22 Jun 2004
Gender: Female
Posts: 759

18 Jul 2004, 9:45 pm

I've gotten lucky with this - very few people know and the ones who do know at least just find it interesting, not bad . . . however, I do have one who takes every oportunity to tell me that I can't REALLY have a condition like AS - I feel like I need to carry my evaluation around with me so I can say 'Yeah, well, here is someone with lots of education who is sure I do . . .'

However, I do worry with the book me and my person I like to be around are working on how people at work may react if they found out - I mean, really, when you start talking about seeing sounds and only having three emotions . . . the good part is that it takes a while to publish a book and I will have been on this job for at least a year when it gets published, so that will reduce the risk of getting fired . . . and, if not, my other favorite person to be around's father in law is a very well known lawyer - so if they fire me I win either way . . . :twisted:



gavrod
Raven
Raven

User avatar

Joined: 23 Jun 2004
Age: 1954
Gender: Male
Posts: 109
Location: Melbourne, Australia

19 Jul 2004, 4:00 am

I'm quite sick of being mistreated by people! At school I was bullied and teased and did things that got me into trouble because I couldn't say no to people. When it was over people would laugh at me and say that I was a spastic or a ret*d or something like that. I'm also sick of being treated like an inferior person, especially by the female neurotypical species :!: :evil:



Torley_Wong
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 20 Jun 2004
Gender: Male
Posts: 307

19 Jul 2004, 6:12 am

I gots to ask, which Aspies, which "regular people"?

I can say I've been treated in such a wide variety ways depending on person treating me in question ;). I think I've had it pretty good on the whole, which I'm grateful for, but there's always room for improvement. Some rude people I've met have chosen to remain ignorant and did not want to listen to me, as they were so quick to judge and unkind and full of repeated insults.

Oh, I am quite volatile in my passions. But I do enjoy treating others with warmth, and it's even better when that's mutual. Bullying is a serious problem that needs to be dealt with more instead of dismissing it as "pranking" -- it's serious enough that people have had their throats slashed and their brains blown out stemming from it, literally speaking.

The cruel stuff in life definitely sucks. You do build up a shell -- hopefully never becoming permanently jaded and cold to the world -- and you do train yourself to deal better with situations like this. But when it doesn't stop, it's one of the most dayum frustrating things in the world.

I don't like seeing words like "ret*d" or "fag" being tossed around lightly. Technically, they are "just words", but they are linked to emotional trauma every time someone calls you something like that and follows it up with negative physical action. There are NO excuses for repeated cruel human behavior. Something I've observed is, if someone is mean to animals -- *especially* the cute ones -- they will be mean to humans who are "different", including those with glasses, deaf, disabled, Down's Syndrome, Asperger's Syndrome, etc. I could toss in the cliched "it's almost inhuman" but I won't, because that's just fancy rhetorical wordplay on some level I don't care to elucidate. I cannot claim to have been in that receiving position that others have, but I have heard plenty of other insults directed towards me over the years.

My good friends don't treat me any differently after I told them about Asperger's -- they *know* something's always been up with me, and they're very casual and like, "Whatever, you're still my friend". And that puts a smile on my face, because THAT, right THERE, is going beyond labels and seeing the whole person.

Take heart -- all achievers of the world are picked on. There is unfortunately plenty of green envy and the sour grapewine runs abundant in this world. But remember:

“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” -Edmund Burke

WOMEN too of course (what a limiter of language, for crying out loud) :) Redundancy bores me. As flamingjune (aka Tare Panda, lol) mentioned, the cliched statements like "learn to be normal", "grow up", and "learn to deal" have probably been heard of you MANY times, and you're sick and tired of it. So am I, so am I. Eventually I got numb to it and stopped caring much for it, and started feeling better about the positive aspects of life and having confidence in myself. But it isn't easy, and you have to take things one step at a time and be proud of all your little achievements. When added up within the sum of your years, they are grand!



Civet
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Jul 2004
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,342

19 Jul 2004, 7:33 am

Postperson wrote:
It's probably a good idea to have some speech therapy (if you haven't already) as most AS people have the characteristic flat, dull or weak voice which gives people the impression they can walk over you.


Yes, this is the problem I have. I also avert my gaze when people look at me, and I am a very small person, so I basically send out messages in flashing lights saying "Come take advantage of me!" I've been manipulated by more people than I care to mention, many of whom I thought were my friends. I have also been teased and picked on, to the point where I would call it "sexual harrassment" (one day I was staring into space during gym class and a girl in my class interpretted it as me staring at her, for the rest of the year her and all her friends called me a lesbian and would throw paper at me, or try to trip me in the halls. Interestingly enough, that same girl had a mental breakdown a couple of years later, seemed she was masking quite a few problems of her own). I've been teased or criticized or just generally treated badly by other people, as well, though not to that extent. From what I've heard some of them saying (behind my back) they didn't like me because I'm "too passive" and they just wanted to "get a reaction out of me." They never did, of course, because I only respond to someone whey they are directly confronting me, rather than acting in passive aggressive ways. I just don't know how to deal with situations like those, so I tend to ignore them.

On the flip side, I've had other people try to "reach out to me." They want to "bring me out of my shell." They see me as a timid little girl who is too afraid to show people who I am. On some level, I guess this might be true, because of all the teasing, manipulation, and criticism I have endured, but mostly I keep to myself because I don't know how to interact with people. I do have friends, and they are all people who came to me rather than me going to them, since I just don't know how to do that.

The people who want to help me give me mixed feelings- on the one hand I feel very warm and glad that someone has noticed me and is interested enough to want to be my friend. On the other hand I feel like some kind of charity case (and that there is something wrong with me) that this person will try to "bring out of my shell" and dismiss once they realize that I'm not in a "shell"- I'm just being me. True, I am much more open with people I know, but that is mainly because I know how to act around them, and can understand them much more easily than I can people I've just met or don't see often. They also understand me better, and if I commit any blunders or act strangely, they know it's just how I am.



KtMcS
Sea Gull
Sea Gull

User avatar

Joined: 16 Jun 2004
Gender: Female
Posts: 226
Location: United Kingdom

19 Jul 2004, 10:10 am

with my friends asperger's hasn't proved to be a problem yet.some of them have chosen to know more about it than others. my treatment at school by the teachers was excellant- hopefully it'll be the same next year (i'm still at the same school). Im thought of as weird and odd by other people and im avoiding my mum's side of the family because i feel they would treat me differently. but those i really care about arent bothered!


_________________
ciamar a tha thu

Sonas càirdeas


flamingjune
Blue Jay
Blue Jay

User avatar

Joined: 25 Jun 2004
Gender: Female
Posts: 96

19 Jul 2004, 3:19 pm

Torley_Wong wrote:
As flamingjune (aka Tare Panda, lol) mentioned, the cliched statements like "learn to be normal", "grow up", and "learn to deal" have probably been heard of you MANY times, and you're sick and tired of it.

The part that bugs me is that I'm dealing just fine
You can call me Evi. It's much shorter to type. ;)



synx13
Pileated woodpecker
Pileated woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 4 Jul 2004
Gender: Female
Posts: 175
Location: California Central Valley

20 Jul 2004, 1:42 am

I never got physically attacked in school except for once, and even that was provoked by a (very evil) person's prolonged psychological attack beforehand. Most of the mental sadism I cannot remember either, such memories just don't stick in my head very well. I do remember said Very Evil person, but strangely enough came to be friends with him later on, while still never quite understanding his delight in testing people's psychological limits.

Many people who were awful and rude and hurtful got hormones and it improved them markedly. Don't ask me why, it's just when a former tormenor suddenly matures enough to be a passable conversationalist...

High School for me was amazingly uneventful. I never desired to hang out with the popular kids, and while everyone else crowded around the occasional school fight, I always went the other way. I made many good friends and was in a number of activities. All those friends are gone now... but putting that aside, it was mostly a pleasant time until I went home.

Some members of my family has been worse to me than any teasing peer, and the experience has led me to believe that perhaps the family isn't so sanctimonious a construct. But I'm usually nice enough to make friends, or at least acquaintences, those who can respect my social invisibility at times.



Bruno
Hummingbird
Hummingbird

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jul 2004
Gender: Male
Posts: 22

20 Jul 2004, 6:38 am

When I was in elementary school, I was harassed every single day...
Some of the things that have been done to me:
- got punched in face at least 3 times
- had water colors spilled on my head
- 2-3 person's chasing and spitting me
- they were very violent I had so many bruises..
In high school I got punched twice, their tactics are now more shifted to psychical violence.
Humans hate me... like there's some kind of invisible "kick me" sign on me. But that's ok, my Powerbook and cats treat me nice.



Staige
Butterfly
Butterfly

User avatar

Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Gender: Female
Posts: 11
Location: Oceanside, CA

20 Jul 2004, 2:50 pm

i dont know why people harass people the way they do just becuase they have a diagnosis because half the time they dont even know anything about it ..... many things that have happened to me that im not to happy about as well and i wish there was some way to stop this misjudgement and mistreatment from happening to people just because they hace a neurological problem such as AS , bipolar disorder , etc...... i mean it took some one nominating me for a high school dance court and me actually winning queen to show people that i can be treated like a normal person ... instead of some pin cushion in which they stab insults and such into ..... harrassement for me after that was quite low as in not as much was done to me as there was my freshmen year ... such as my locker being trashed at the end of the year with mustard and ketchup squirted through the slots and no one poured 2 liters of soda on me either ..... i mean if it takes that much for people to realize that people such as our selves can be normal can be actually treated like people instead of some insane animal than the world is going to be filled with hatered for a long time because not every one is going to be promoted in the work place to gain peoples respect and not every one gets nominated for a dance court in high school and not every one gets to be popular in high school or in the work place or even get famous no every one gets those chances and just becuase the harrasment went down on my account doesnt mean it shouldnt for those with out those oppertunities to be recognized..... what is the world coming to is it so full of hatered and war and such things that we cant focus on how to treat one another wiht respect?????

well thats it ...basically ...

luv,
staige



Sanityisoverrated
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 10 Jul 2004
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,382

20 Jul 2004, 9:28 pm

Yes, but surely all these hardships and social difficulties mean we will eventually get bitten by radioactive spiders and be bullied no more! I mean, we will won't we...?