Is it possible for two socially inept people to befriend?

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02 Dec 2019, 8:41 pm

Or at least one while the other is proficient at it? How do they keep the dialog going?

I don't know where to begin and how to maintain a friendship that lasts longer than a few days. Once you say all the main stuff, how do people carry on?



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03 Dec 2019, 1:09 am

I seem to get on more with people that have any sort of condition that can affect social performance in some way (ASD, ADHD, social anxiety, Fragile-X, learning difficulties, etc etc), especially if they are around my age. NTs my age seem to ghost me for some reason.


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03 Dec 2019, 1:29 am

my family seems to grok me. nobody else does. no matter. i have plenty of pen pals in any case.



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03 Dec 2019, 4:38 am

I think there's a little bit of luck involved in meeting the right person you can relate to very well. If you end up finding such a person, the dialog will carry on past the point of being only general stuff. Finding enjoyable activities to do together might also make it a little less awkward when you temporarily run out of stuff to talk about.



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03 Dec 2019, 10:48 am

I am a woman. I tried being platonic friends with Aspie dudes. They did a million things to offend and anger me.

They would say, with no shame or hesitation, "I am really functional, unlike you!" This from a guy who lives off of his parents, has no job, keeps getting fired, makes incredibly basic mistakes all of the time and hasn't gotten laid in 10 years! What a clueless thing to say. And even if it were true, you don't say that. That is rude.

This is just one example, by the way.

Thankfully, these friendships came to a swift end.



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03 Dec 2019, 10:57 am

Of course it is!

I'm socially inept----and I've made many friendships with other socially inept people.

They understand that I am the Wolfman! :mrgreen:



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03 Dec 2019, 11:07 am

One can talk about it being Minus-40 in Winnipeg for hours on end.....



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03 Dec 2019, 3:05 pm

This is obviously anecdotal...

In college, I briefly befriended a very obnoxious and rude autistic girl. She drove me bananas in three dozen ways.

She'd ask me questions that required a long and complicated answer. I would proceed to answer them- or attempt to, anyway. She'd relentlessly interrupt and go off on long and complicated tangents and tangents to tangents. She wouldn't stop monologuing, even when I was providing answers to her own questions.

Needless to say, I pretty soon wanted nothing to do with her.



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03 Dec 2019, 3:40 pm

such people remind me of the character "pookie" in "the sterile cuckoo." very sad.



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06 Dec 2019, 11:37 pm

It is tough for two or three disabled women to hang out for a million different reasons.

Here is just one. They all monologue- and that is my job! You are constantly interrupting each other.

When we get excited, we scream- and how! The whole table is shouting. Which is bad when you get headaches from loud noises.

Paradoxically, I hate loud sounds- despite making plenty of them myself!

For another, I have a very jokey approach to everything. I'll say something that is so obviously tongue-in-cheek and the other woman will take it so literally! It is baffling. You'll think "How did she not realize that was an attempt at light-hearted wit?!"



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07 Dec 2019, 7:35 pm

EGSY8p7 wrote:
Or at least one while the other is proficient at it? How do they keep the dialog going?

I don't know where to begin and how to maintain a friendship that lasts longer than a few days. Once you say all the main stuff, how do people carry on?

Depends on what drew you and the other person together in the first place.

All of my friendships have been rooted in one or more common interests of one kind or another. That being the case, there was never a shortage of things to talk about.


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07 Dec 2019, 8:03 pm

DorkyNerd wrote:
It is tough for two or three disabled women to hang out for a million different reasons.

Here is just one. They all monologue- and that is my job! You are constantly interrupting each other.

When we get excited, we scream- and how! The whole table is shouting. Which is bad when you get headaches from loud noises.

Paradoxically, I hate loud sounds- despite making plenty of them myself!

These are issues that can be explicitly negotiated among people who have agreed to be assertive with each other. People can agree, for example, to accept gentle reminders (without taking it personally) when they are talking too loud.

(See Autistic-friendly social skills vs. blending in with NT's.)


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07 Dec 2019, 11:24 pm

EGSY8p7 wrote:
Or at least one while the other is proficient at it? How do they keep the dialog going?


The secret to conversation is asking questions. Lots of questions!


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08 Dec 2019, 12:12 am

some people hate it when you ask 'em questions.