Nightclubs having knowledge about autism?

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I was talking to my dad today as to why nightclubs can be funny sometimes about letting autistic people in. My dads explanation as to why is because “Autistic people do not understand boundaries and say inappropriate things”

So my question is do you think nightclubs/door security have some sort of knowledges of autism?

Yes I do because autistic people have the right to attend a night club. Any security guard who refuses to let a person in is discrimination.


As for the boundary part, I can see why that might be a problem. There are people on the spectrum who want may like someone. However, that person may not feel comfortable.

On the other hand, they have no problem letting other people in who probably sexually harass people.

What boundaries do we not understand?

How would the guard know you are autistic? Most people don’t know that much about it.

They are looking out for concerning behavior/red flags, not diagnoses.

I wouldn’t say that. They try to keep out riffraff, but they aren’t omniscient.

Nightclubs can be funny about letting people wearing trainers in too. Who knows what's going on in their brains?

5 years ago when this nightclub was packed out this doorman refused me entry for wearing black Nike Air max trainers.

^Have you ever been excluded because you are autistic? How do you know? Did they say so, specfically? If not, where do you get that idea from?

The dress code thing is ridiculous in my opinion but I've never wanted to go into a place with a dress code more than I've wanted to tell them to shove it if I don't measure up to whatever arbitrary line I've crossed.

To play devils advocate for a second: Imagine you run a nightclub business. Your business survives on its reputation. If your nightclub gets a reputation for being the sort of place where you're likely to get felt up or upskirted or otherwise pestered because their security policy is too lax, you're not going to be in business for long. It's less about excluding people than it is about protecting their business.

I have been excluded briefly back in 2017 for behaving creepily and hanging outside nightclub entrances till 3:30 in the morning.

and drunk people dont

It is not unusual for off-duty cops to be employed as bouncers, doormen, and security in dance clubs.

Cops are trained to use 'profiling' when sizing up a person.  Certain clothes, tattoos, and behaviors MAY indicate a potential trouble-maker.  Even a specific brand and style of shoe MAY indicate certain gang affiliations.

So, to some bouncers, doormen, and security in dance clubs, if it looks like a chav, walks like a chav, and talks like a chav, then they MAY be told to get the duck out of there.

I have a broken nose from past fights. That might make me look like a trouble maker perhaps?

Jamesy can you please clarify where and when nightclubs said they don't like to admit autistic patrons?

All I've seen is that they discourage bad behaviour. That's their job.

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Everyone has subconscious biases

Just because nightclubs legally cannot "discriminate" doesn't mean they all nightclub bouncers know everything about autism (and any other diagnosis that might make someone appear like they will cause the nightclub to lose business)

Even clinical psychologists do not have the skill to just look at you and "determine" if you are autistic or neurotypical. They have to do an assessment. The assessment takes time, cash, and energy. Even the assessment itself is just a professional opinion.

Unless you tell someone about your diagnosis, they don't know

"We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" is also the law. They just cannot refuse service based on an illegal reason, such as disability.

However, there might be characteristics of autism, that make you look suspicious, and they could refuse service to you for those reasons.

autistic people who are brave & social enough to go to a nightclub are probably good at masking and so likely look nt

i looked nt when i when to nightclubs in my 20s because i wore tarty clothes and long blonde hair and the drugs and alcohol seemed to keep the autism hidden

now i rather be a true autistic person than a alcoholic junkie