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bjmax31
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02 Sep 2007, 7:57 am

It's like talking to a brick wall most of the time! seriously! I am flat out getting my words out as it is No matter who i talk to! they just reply with yep yep yep yep! Showing no interest in what i say! I feel like i'm second best! a loser even!

what should i do?!

unpack all my troubles and frown frown frown???!



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02 Sep 2007, 8:02 am

Most NTs are not ignorant, they just think differently and it does depend on which NTs you mean, they come in all kinds.

Some of my best friends are NTs, god bless their souls :D



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02 Sep 2007, 8:13 am

Kaleido wrote:
Most NTs are not ignorant, they just think differently and it does depend on which NTs you mean, they come in all kinds.

Some of my best friends are NTs, god bless their souls :D


Seldom i talk to somebody who actually listens to me though.
But a majority of the time my words are like a train through a tunnel
in one end and out the other



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02 Sep 2007, 9:05 am

Conversation isn't easy for Aspies.

I had a friend who is a very sociable Aspie and when he was younger, he didn't pause when he spoke, he just kept talking about his favourite thing and it was more of a monologue than a dialogue; he isn't like that now so much because he learned to stop and see if the other person was still listening; it was hard for him to tell if they were interested in what he was saying too.

Whart is it that you are finding hard? Is it knowing when to pause? or when to speak? or finding the right thing to say?



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02 Sep 2007, 9:32 am

Kaleido wrote:
Conversation isn't easy for Aspies.

I had a friend who is a very sociable Aspie and when he was younger, he didn't pause when he spoke, he just kept talking about his favourite thing and it was more of a monologue than a dialogue; he isn't like that now so much because he learned to stop and see if the other person was still listening; it was hard for him to tell if they were interested in what he was saying too.

Whart is it that you are finding hard? Is it knowing when to pause? or when to speak? or finding the right thing to say?


I just talk genuine sense ( Brain struggling to keep up with mouth) like a 486
-66 trying to decode an mp3. Eyes darting back and forth hands usually still nothing out of the ordinary really I do have pauses between sentences. More like pauses between words when things get to bad. But usually the flow between my brain and mouth are in sync. I dont speak in a monotone I speak at different pitches i unintentionally pull Benny Hill style facials.



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02 Sep 2007, 9:57 am

Kaleido wrote:
Conversation isn't easy for Aspies.

I had a friend who is a very sociable Aspie and when he was younger, he didn't pause when he spoke, he just kept talking about his favourite thing and it was more of a monologue than a dialogue; he isn't like that now so much because he learned to stop and see if the other person was still listening; it was hard for him to tell if they were interested in what he was saying too.

Whart is it that you are finding hard? Is it knowing when to pause? or when to speak? or finding the right thing to say?


I heard the greatest thing on National Public Radio the other day. It was about the signals sent by using UMMM and UNH! they said when you are going to say a sentance with a pause in the middle you say UMMMM before it, and when the pause is going to be short. . say UNH! before the sentance.

Then they know when you are going to speak a bit and think while you are talking, but not give up your turn.

This is just as good when you are LISTENING, too! I always thought that when someone said "UMMMM" they weren't well prepared for what they were going to say. . and after all these years now I see why I had such a difficult time communicating!

hope this helps. . .we can only try to communicate with NTs . . there are so many of them and so few of us, remember they pick up on body language and 'reading between the lines' and up to 90% of their communication is done without words! a daunting task!

but consider the alternitive to NOT learning how to communicate with them! Yikes!

Merle

see? I write all of this out, and never get a peep back. so you see? you do it too. I write and write and do you say, hey, I hear you? no. It just goes into the tunnel like the train and comes out the other side.

well, YOU said you felt better, so I guess that is all that matters to you!



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02 Sep 2007, 10:04 am

bjmax31 wrote:
I just talk genuine sense

That'll baffle some of them :D *giggles*

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I do have pauses between sentences. More like pauses between words when things get to bad.

I also get timings wrong sometimes.

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i unintentionally pull Benny Hill style facials.

Then they get a bargain, they get to listen to you and get some comedy too :D



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02 Sep 2007, 10:07 am

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I heard the greatest thing on National Public Radio the other day. It was about the signals sent by using UMMM and UNH! they said when you are going to say a sentance with a pause in the middle you say UMMMM before it, and when the pause is going to be short. . say UNH! before the sentance.

Then they know when you are going to speak a bit and think while you are talking, but not give up your turn.

Oh, I didn't know this, I thought they just didn't know what to say next.

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we can only try to communicate with NTs . . there are so many of them and so few of us, remember they pick up on body language and 'reading between the lines' and up to 90% of their communication is done without words! a daunting task!

Yes, its the body language bits I don't get so well though this is better since I learned to do eye contact a bit better.



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02 Sep 2007, 10:08 am

thanks you made me feel slightly better for now

P.s cute aviator!



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02 Sep 2007, 11:08 am

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P.s cute aviator!


*Spews out a stream of curse words* It's called an Avatar! :roll:


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02 Sep 2007, 12:11 pm

see? I write all of this out, and never get a peep back. so you see? you do it too, bjmax31 !.

I write and write and do you say, "hey, I hear you?"

no. It just goes into the tunnel like the train and comes out the other side.

well, YOU said you felt better, so I guess that is all that matters to you



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02 Sep 2007, 6:22 pm

wow! thanks for pointing that out to me! I never relized i was so selfish!
I have a lot to learn!



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02 Sep 2007, 6:26 pm

sinsboldly wrote:
Kaleido wrote:
Conversation isn't easy for Aspies.

I had a friend who is a very sociable Aspie and when he was younger, he didn't pause when he spoke, he just kept talking about his favourite thing and it was more of a monologue than a dialogue; he isn't like that now so much because he learned to stop and see if the other person was still listening; it was hard for him to tell if they were interested in what he was saying too.

Whart is it that you are finding hard? Is it knowing when to pause? or when to speak? or finding the right thing to say?


I heard the greatest thing on National Public Radio the other day. It was about the signals sent by using UMMM and UNH! they said when you are going to say a sentance with a pause in the middle you say UMMMM before it, and when the pause is going to be short. . say UNH! before the sentance.

Then they know when you are going to speak a bit and think while you are talking, but not give up your turn.

This is just as good when you are LISTENING, too! I always thought that when someone said "UMMMM" they weren't well prepared for what they were going to say. . and after all these years now I see why I had such a difficult time communicating!

hope this helps. . .we can only try to communicate with NTs . . there are so many of them and so few of us, remember they pick up on body language and 'reading between the lines' and up to 90% of their communication is done without words! a daunting task!

but consider the alternitive to NOT learning how to communicate with them! Yikes!

Merle

see? I write all of this out, and never get a peep back. so you see? you do it too. I write and write and do you say, hey, I hear you? no. It just goes into the tunnel like the train and comes out the other side.

well, YOU said you felt better, so I guess that is all that matters to you!



Man I know how you feel communuicating with NT's is like hardwork!
Too difficult (p.s I hope i'm not being ignorant myself p.s let me know



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02 Sep 2007, 6:59 pm

bjmax31 wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
Kaleido wrote:
Conversation isn't easy for Aspies.

I had a friend who is a very sociable Aspie and when he was younger, he didn't pause when he spoke, he just kept talking about his favourite thing and it was more of a monologue than a dialogue; he isn't like that now so much because he learned to stop and see if the other person was still listening; it was hard for him to tell if they were interested in what he was saying too.

Whart is it that you are finding hard? Is it knowing when to pause? or when to speak? or finding the right thing to say?


I heard the greatest thing on National Public Radio the other day. It was about the signals sent by using UMMM and UNH! they said when you are going to say a sentance with a pause in the middle you say UMMMM before it, and when the pause is going to be short. . say UNH! before the sentance.

Then they know when you are going to speak a bit and think while you are talking, but not give up your turn.

This is just as good when you are LISTENING, too! I always thought that when someone said "UMMMM" they weren't well prepared for what they were going to say. . and after all these years now I see why I had such a difficult time communicating!

hope this helps. . .we can only try to communicate with NTs . . there are so many of them and so few of us, remember they pick up on body language and 'reading between the lines' and up to 90% of their communication is done without words! a daunting task!

but consider the alternitive to NOT learning how to communicate with them! Yikes!

Merle

see? I write all of this out, and never get a peep back. so you see? you do it too. I write and write and do you say, hey, I hear you? no. It just goes into the tunnel like the train and comes out the other side.

well, YOU said you felt better, so I guess that is all that matters to you!



Man I know how you feel communuicating with NT's is like hardwork!
Too difficult (p.s I hope i'm not being ignorant myself p.s let me know


any time! we are always right, you know!
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02 Sep 2007, 7:52 pm

NTs hide feelings, are dishonest, and don't understand half the stuff we say. Well... a majority atleast. There a few good ones out there, but i'm starting to get annoyed with people in general.


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02 Sep 2007, 10:37 pm

sinsboldly wrote:
bjmax31 wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
Kaleido wrote:
Conversation isn't easy for Aspies.

I had a friend who is a very sociable Aspie and when he was younger, he didn't pause when he spoke, he just kept talking about his favourite thing and it was more of a monologue than a dialogue; he isn't like that now so much because he learned to stop and see if the other person was still listening; it was hard for him to tell if they were interested in what he was saying too.

Whart is it that you are finding hard? Is it knowing when to pause? or when to speak? or finding the right thing to say?


I heard the greatest thing on National Public Radio the other day. It was about the signals sent by using UMMM and UNH! they said when you are going to say a sentance with a pause in the middle you say UMMMM before it, and when the pause is going to be short. . say UNH! before the sentance.

Then they know when you are going to speak a bit and think while you are talking, but not give up your turn.

This is just as good when you are LISTENING, too! I always thought that when someone said "UMMMM" they weren't well prepared for what they were going to say. . and after all these years now I see why I had such a difficult time communicating!

hope this helps. . .we can only try to communicate with NTs . . there are so many of them and so few of us, remember they pick up on body language and 'reading between the lines' and up to 90% of their communication is done without words! a daunting task!

but consider the alternitive to NOT learning how to communicate with them! Yikes!

Merle

see? I write all of this out, and never get a peep back. so you see? you do it too. I write and write and do you say, hey, I hear you? no. It just goes into the tunnel like the train and comes out the other side.

well, YOU said you felt better, so I guess that is all that matters to you!



Man I know how you feel communuicating with NT's is like hardwork!
Too difficult (p.s I hope i'm not being ignorant myself p.s let me know


any time! we are always right, you know!
:wink:



Dam straight!!