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17 Apr 2009, 6:27 pm

I've never been too fast on my feet with saying the right thing. Today I was in the computer lab, listening to something on YouTube. Apparently it was too loud for somebody a few rows ahead of me. All of a sudden I hear this voice, "Alright shut the **** up I've had enough, I'm over here, actually working on a serious paper, and I can't stand it anymore." This was like, all one sentence without a break. I turned it down and said "Sorry, didn't know you could hear it." And I really didn't! She finishes with, "It's like you're ******* deaf I swear."

I wanted to say, "What?! **** you." But I didn't. First, I was afraid it would turn into a huge spat right then and there, and second... well, there is no second. I didn't know what would be appropriate. So I let it go. That is, except for now, on these boards.

What do you think? Do you ever cop out of standing up for yourself like that?



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17 Apr 2009, 7:02 pm

All the time.

Due to social anxiety and cognitive deficits since childhood, I've devloped a terrible habit of avoiding social confrontations at whatever the cost. I tned to shut down when put on the spot like that and like you, simply don't know what to say.

I absolutely hate it as I feel like I let people walk all over me, but it's hard to overcome biology. If you can't think fast enough to respond appropriately, you simply can't.

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17 Apr 2009, 7:09 pm

I love standing up to myself but I suck at it in real life because I am always speechless. But I am better online because I can think of things to say and I can go and reply to that post and say it.

In real life if it's repeated stuff like when I was a kid, I basically had the same kind of bullying so it gave me time to think up of things to do and bug them back and piss them off.



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17 Apr 2009, 7:27 pm

Well, for future reference, what could I have said? :?:



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17 Apr 2009, 7:43 pm

I don't have that much of problem of standing up for myself when needed, but I would have let that one go. You never know, the she might of been in a bad mood, thus her negative remark. In this situation, it's wouldn't have been worth starting s**t over you playing some music. You made the right move by keeping your mouth shut.



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17 Apr 2009, 9:09 pm

I always freeze up in social confrontations. I'll usually think of a good comeback the next day, but by then its too late. I wish I could make up comeback lines on the spot.



17 Apr 2009, 9:17 pm

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I always freeze up in social confrontations. I'll usually think of a good comeback the next day, but by then its too late. I wish I could make up comeback lines on the spot.



Me too. Picking fights with as*holes is great practice :lol:

I just have to wait for the next person to attack me to start a drama with him/her. :wink:



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17 Apr 2009, 9:35 pm

Sounds like she was in a bad mood. This might have also been bugging her for awhile, but she never mentioned anything until now.

Keep in mind, not all of the problems are us, sometimes people have their own problems to deal with, but take it out on others. Anymore, if someone mouths me, they get it right back. :wink:



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17 Apr 2009, 10:58 pm

CaptainTrips222 wrote:
I've never been too fast on my feet with saying the right thing. Today I was in the computer lab, listening to something on YouTube. Apparently it was too loud for somebody a few rows ahead of me. All of a sudden I hear this voice, "Alright shut the **** up I've had enough, I'm over here, actually working on a serious paper, and I can't stand it anymore." This was like, all one sentence without a break. I turned it down and said "Sorry, didn't know you could hear it." And I really didn't! She finishes with, "It's like you're ******* deaf I swear."

I wanted to say, "What?! **** you." But I didn't. First, I was afraid it would turn into a huge spat right then and there, and second... well, there is no second. I didn't know what would be appropriate. So I let it go. That is, except for now, on these boards.

What do you think? Do you ever cop out of standing up for yourself like that?


I'm assuming that computer lab is in school, right? Forgive me for not knowing these things, because I went to school when computers took up entire rooms. But...why would you be watching a You Tube video at school? And why would you be doing it so that anyone else can hear? Is that even allowed? I'd be pretty upset if I was working on a paper for a class--in the school computer lab--and someone nearby was listening to a You Tube video loud enough for me to hear it. That's clearly a violation of common courtesy, if not an actual rule.

But to answer your question, yes, I often cop out of standing up for myself. I don't like confrontation. I just think that in this particular instance, you don't really have much right to be upset with her...unless I'm misunderstanding the context.



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17 Apr 2009, 11:27 pm

I find the best thing to do in circumstances like these are to give the person a look like you would give a small child throwing a tantrum. It's the "are you done yet?" look, then just go back to your own thing.

Pick your fights, this one doesn't even sound ire worthy. So you had your thing a little loud, you turned it down. If she wants to throw a tantrum about it then just let her act childishly.

Chances are if you were watching it loud today, you might have been watching it loud all week and something else going on with her just kind of made it so it bothered her more. I'd just let it pass.



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19 Apr 2009, 12:55 am

elderwanda wrote:
CaptainTrips222 wrote:
I've never been too fast on my feet with saying the right thing. Today I was in the computer lab, listening to something on YouTube. Apparently it was too loud for somebody a few rows ahead of me. All of a sudden I hear this voice, "Alright shut the **** up I've had enough, I'm over here, actually working on a serious paper, and I can't stand it anymore." This was like, all one sentence without a break. I turned it down and said "Sorry, didn't know you could hear it." And I really didn't! She finishes with, "It's like you're ******* deaf I swear."

I wanted to say, "What?! **** you." But I didn't. First, I was afraid it would turn into a huge spat right then and there, and second... well, there is no second. I didn't know what would be appropriate. So I let it go. That is, except for now, on these boards.

What do you think? Do you ever cop out of standing up for yourself like that?


I'm assuming that computer lab is in school, right? Forgive me for not knowing these things, because I went to school when computers took up entire rooms. But...why would you be watching a You Tube video at school? And why would you be doing it so that anyone else can hear? Is that even allowed? I'd be pretty upset if I was working on a paper for a class--in the school computer lab--and someone nearby was listening to a You Tube video loud enough for me to hear it. That's clearly a violation of common courtesy, if not an actual rule.

But to answer your question, yes, I often cop out of standing up for myself. I don't like confrontation. I just think that in this particular instance, you don't really have much right to be upset with her...unless I'm misunderstanding the context.



I agree. The OP probably wasn't showing common courtesy and was being distracting. The girl could have asked the OP turn it down in a kind way, the first time it happened, but she let it go on, until she finally lashed out, rudely. So actually, both are a little at fault.



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21 Apr 2009, 10:48 am

I don't stand up for myself enough either. I'm often too surprised or shocked by other people's comments/behavior that I can't think fast enough about how to react. When I'm shocked it's also like I become non-verbal, the words don't come out even if I want to say something back. I also don't always know what's appropriate or how I should stand up for myself and I don't want to get into a fight, because they upset me too much.

Afterwards I tend to get angry because of the incident and wish I had stood up for myself.



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21 Apr 2009, 12:06 pm

slowly but shurley is the best way ive found :wink:



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21 Apr 2009, 2:22 pm

That girl sounds like a major b**ch

What I would've done is I would've given her a look like I give to a misbehaving child, and then I would ask her in a calm, sweet voice, "I'm sorry, would you please ask politely?"

If she continues to be rude, I would just repeat that question in my sweet, calm voice until she finally becomes polite or gives up. :lol:

When she finally asks politely, I would say "Thank You!" in that same sweet, calm voice, and then turn down the volume.
If she gives up, then I would continue listening to the music until she decides to ask politely.

I will not respect anyone who will not respect me.


I've had lots of practice doing this when my brother gets all rude.


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21 Apr 2009, 2:42 pm

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That girl sounds like a major b**ch

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I will not respect anyone who will not respect me.



So playing video clips at a loud volume is ok with you and not disrespectul of other people and they are the agressors?

People must learn that the world isnt about only themselves and if you do not start thinking about your actions then you could end up in a bad situation.

If you were playing music loudly on a stereo like that in your appartment and expected people to talk politely to you before you respected them back, you could end up being homeless.

For every action, there is a reaction.


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21 Apr 2009, 3:01 pm

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So playing video clips at a loud volume is ok with you and not disrespectful of other people and they are the aggressors?

People must learn that the world isn't about only themselves and if you do not start thinking about your actions then you could end up in a bad situation.

If you were playing music loudly on a stereo like that in your apartment and expected people to talk politely to you before you respected them back, you could end up being homeless.

For every action, there is a reaction.


I do understand what you are getting at. However, the girl should not have lashed out the way she did. Now, if she had politely asked several times before, and her requests were denied, then her reaction would've been been very reasonable. But she gave NO warning for her snapping.

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I turned it down and said "Sorry, didn't know you could hear it." And I really didn't!


She wasn't deliberately disrespecting anyone at all! If she had known, of course the music would've been quieter!

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She finishes with, "It's like you're ******* deaf I swear."


The other girl is definitely being the aggressor by trying to continue the conflict, even though the apparent cause has been resolved along with an apology! Unacceptable behavior, in my opinion.


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