Navy Sued Over Sonar's Effects on Whales

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26 Oct 2005, 10:47 am

Navy Sued Over Sonar's Effects on Whales
http://www.livescience.com/animalworld/ ... _suit.html
By The Associated Press

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26 Oct 2005, 10:49 am

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26 Oct 2005, 12:39 pm

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26 Oct 2005, 3:19 pm

i hope that this lawsuit will be successful, but im not very hopeful in this case

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26 Oct 2005, 3:21 pm

That sonar, assuming it has any environmental imact, poses far less danger to the environment than a Chineese, or possibly someday a North Korean missile submarine would pose. Such lawsuits have been sidestepped under the guise of National secuirity before, and I hope this one does too. If the government could avoid paying up for wrongful deaths at Area 51 in the early to mid '90s, they will most likely cite that parts of the sonar system that would validate or disprove the claims of the lawsuit are classified and are important to National security, and the lawsuit will have to be thrown out since the plantiff will not have the evidence neede to prove their case.

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26 Oct 2005, 4:43 pm

I highly doubt the US governments going to fine itself :-/.

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05 Nov 2005, 1:58 am

I think some of this dates back to Project Seafarer.

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05 Nov 2005, 2:46 am

Hmm, which is worse on the brain, Sean or mid range radar.
I vote for Sean.
The marine mammals would vote for mid range radar.
Guess its a crap shoot.

Actually, I've been waiting for this law suit.

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05 Nov 2005, 3:51 am

irishmic wrote:

Hmm, which is worse on the brain, Sean or mid range radar.
I vote for Sean.
The marine mammals would vote for mid range radar.
Guess its a crap shoot.

Actually, I've been waiting for this law suit.

The military wil get their way. All they have to do is let the case get appealed to the Supreme Court, and guess which elected office has historically had tremendous influence over the Supreme Court's rulings? (you'll only need one guess) :wink:

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05 Nov 2005, 9:45 am

Sean wrote:

That sonar, assuming it has any environmental imact,

It's impact, sean.

The sonar
poses far less danger to the environment than a Chineese, or possibly someday a North Korean missile submarine would pose.

And a Navy without sonar or with a safer substitute poses even less danger than that of our present chief executive, whose reckless international cowboy act, coupled with environmental denial, provokes terrorism and other nations like China to upgrade their military for their own defense.

Such lawsuits have been sidestepped under the guise of National secuirity before, and I hope this one does too.

If the government could avoid paying up for wrongful deaths at Area 51 in the early to mid '90s, they will most likely cite that parts of the sonar system that would validate or disprove the claims of the lawsuit are classified and are important to National security, and the lawsuit will have to be thrown out since the plantiff will not have the evidence neede to prove their case.

You are probably right though the outcome you desire is wrong.

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