This might help with girl problems

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08 Dec 2004, 10:28 pm

It depends on what you like on her. If you like her face, tell her about her face. If you like her cloth, tell her about that. But maybe you should consider thinking about if you like her inside, her way of thinking, her way to look at life.... :wink:

You better just have a good conversation with her. Maybe you'll just loose your interest after that, who knows ? Remember, she is a lot more than just her face or her cloth.

About how you should act. I find the link that you gave usefull for a one-night, but if you have to act like another guy to seduce her and you are successfull, think about how long your life will be after that ? Will you act for the rest of your life 8O

be yourself man, if she doesn't like you the way you are, why bother ?



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08 Dec 2004, 10:50 pm

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It depends on what you like on her. If you like her face, tell her about her face. If you like her cloth, tell her about that. But maybe you should consider thinking about if you like her inside, her way of thinking, her way to look at life.... :wink:

You better just have a good conversation with her. Maybe you'll just loose your interest after that, who knows ? Remember, she is a lot more than just her face or her cloth.

About how you should act. I find the link that you gave usefull for a one-night, but if you have to act like another guy to seduce her and you are successfull, think about how long your life will be after that ? Will you act for the rest of your life 8O

be yourself man, if she doesn't like you the way you are, why bother ?


Shes a really polite girl. Shes always polite towards me.


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09 Dec 2004, 4:12 pm

Hasty generalizations, false dilemmas and appeals to authority oh my! Great fallacies Batman, this looks like trouble!

Now I know all you guys are desperate to get some. Because studies show that. :roll: But I would hesitate to trust what this advice says, because many things indicate that the author is more being cynical than being thoughtful.

To illustrate my point in hyperbole, by the author's advice you would hook up with me by grabbing and lifting my foot, remarking "Nice shoe. Are you busy tonight? Good grief, my bursitis is tingling with passion."

A few problems exist with his suggested strategy. First off, many women don't ignore the average guys. In fact, you might be in trouble if you put on that kind of sexy veneer, because the girls you want to get with will go for the guy who respects her, more than the one who's sexy by magazine standards, because the sexy ones are usually trying too hard, to be trusted.

Second, not all women enjoy those sappy romance novels. But I will grant that they're the largest fiction section in the store. Moving on...

If you are not comfortable enough to talk with a woman about disturbing subjects, for fear of not getting laid, then why are you so hell bent on being with her in the first place? She probably will pick up on this incongruity and realize you don't expect her to be competent enough to talk about serious things without shattering like porcelein. Again, lack of respect = not fun in bed.

Oh, and yes every time you compliment a woman on what she's wearing, you are contributing to a faceless corporate system of conspicuous consumption. Those compliments will make her feel good, perhaps, but they will also remind her that you guys won't go for girls who aren't wearing the latest in Ralph Lauren fashion or something like that. If it looks like a homemade garment, go ahead and compliment, but my advice is to save your praise for when the clothing actually deserves it. Praising clothing just to get laid gives girls an artificially inflated value of clothing.

Another problem: while being confident is good, his advice is to get the girl away from her friends, and not allow yourself to be too friendly with her. According to mister advice columnist, being friends with her means you don't get sex, which is certainly not true. But believing it's true will make you, the guy, unhappy, because ultimately you can have as much sex as you want, and nothing will beat the joy of being with a true friend. Heck, I imagine some girls even say things like "Oh he's cute!" because they can't work up the nerve to talk about how you are cute, but still want to get talking with you about what she's really looking for in a guy.

As for getting her alone from her friends, that is probably necessary to start having sex, but at the same time think of how she will feel when you make a false dichotomy between you, and her friends. Trust me, it's a better idea to be friends with her, and her circle so to speak. Otherwise you'll find yourself having sex with someone you don't care about, and her friends will suffer losing her to your exclusive control. It's a strategy as old as marriage. Get the woman alone and isolated, don't allow emotional attachment, use her for what you need and put her in the closet, or the kitchen barefoot like a good little housewife. The Bible tells you that's a good thing, so it must be a good thing! :roll:

Bottom line is, don't put people into cubby holes based on their sex, gender, or social role. Girls like different things just like guys, everybody's human after all. If you approach people with the attitude that you are looking for not just sex, but for friendship, connections, conversation, mutual aid, stimulation, and sex, then you will generally be a lot happier.since you're more likely to get one of the 6. Plus you won't be a sexual predator, and you are allowed to be friends with people you like.

Most guys who don't get any sex, when they want sex, have trouble for three reasons. First, our culture views sex as taboo, and tells us that it is immoral for males not to be a sexual predator, and agressively separate a woman from her friends and family, forming a 'household' in 'holy matrimony.' That means most girls will get upset if you aren't repressed about sex, and trying to lead up to it via "proper" channels like innuendo and isolation, not because of anything that you're doing, but because of what they've already been taught about how life, and romance works. It's a tricky problem, but one that can only be overcome by following in the example of folks such as Kinsey and not try to conform to a destructive standard of sexuality. Plus when you do find a girl that doesn't want to be dated, taken away and married, you'll end up a lot happier and more satisfied, and less burdened by social shackles.

Second, most guys are afraid to talk about sex. They don't want to sound obsessed by it, and don't want to sound like... a sexual predator. You can't just walk up to someone and say, "Hey you're cute! Let's go have sex!" can you? :twisted: Can you? Seriously, being open about your desire for an intimate relationship, and willing to talk about your interest in sex, you are far more likely to seem like an open minded guy who's looking for sex, than if you silently touch her arm, lean forward, blah blah, demand a kiss on the first real date blah. Kissing is just to get you two in the 'position' after all. True sexual predators, the people girls are really scared of, are the ones who don't talk about sex: the ones who lie about themselves, love control, and get violent when they have got the girl safely married, imprisoned and alone.

There are issues about sex, like, pregnancy, emotional attachment, STDs and all. So you should be very careful and selective before going and doing the deed. I avoid it myself; more trouble'n it's worth IMHO. But that's all the more reason to be open about your sexuality. If you meet someone, become friends, tell them you like them, and they answer in turn, and learn about all their "negative topics" like rashes they're dealing with or blood test results, it's easier to avoid an STD or other complications than if you ask someone out to dinner and drinking, drive them home, kiss her on the first date, and then wake up just glowing in her bed the next morning, as her parents come into the room.

Gah... why am I posting so long... stupid brain is on the fritz again.



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09 Dec 2004, 4:22 pm

go, synx13!

what a great post!



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09 Dec 2004, 4:25 pm

So If I pull her to the side at work I have a better shot of getting laid? 8O So I should tell her I want sex?


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09 Dec 2004, 6:46 pm

I've been sick to my stomach lately thinking about it. I'm too nervous.


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