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17 Nov 2005, 8:46 am

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What you guys and every other communist idealist in history fail to consider is that there is too much greed, selfishness, and evil in general hard wired into every individual for communism to work as it was originally envisioned by Karl Marx, Mao Tse-tung, or Kim Il Sung.


Possibly, but that dosent meen its not worth a PROPER try.


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17 Nov 2005, 11:16 pm

Mithrandir wrote:
kevv729 wrote:
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Most communist states in Europe in the past were dictatorships. A few examples Tito (Yugoslavia), Ceausecu (Romania), Stalin (U.S.S.R.), Mao (China), Zhivkov (Bulgaria) these and others where one man dictorships in the communist system.


They "think" they are Communist.
Thinking a truly being Communst are truly two different things.


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18 Nov 2005, 12:30 am

Assassin wrote:
Sean wrote:
What you guys and every other communist idealist in history fail to consider is that there is too much greed, selfishness, and evil in general hard wired into every individual for communism to work as it was originally envisioned by Karl Marx, Mao Tse-tung, or Kim Il Sung.


Possibly, but that dosent meen its not worth a PROPER try.

So after roughly a couple dozen attampts and an equal number of failures by different countries to get it right, nobody is yet to have given it a proper try? How many countries have to be turned into s**tholes due to their communist government collapsing before all the liberals in the world realize that Marx and his subsequent copycat philosophers were all a bunch of f***ing ret*ds?



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18 Nov 2005, 6:18 pm

I think communism is too extreme. But democratic socialism is not, however, and is based on the idea that essential resources (like food, shelter, water, electricity) should be available to all citizens equally. That is why all public services should be nationalised.



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18 Nov 2005, 9:52 pm

wouldnt a nationalization of major resources cause a sharp rise in taxes?



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18 Nov 2005, 10:35 pm

RobertN wrote:
I think communism is too extreme. But democratic socialism is not, however, and is based on the idea that essential resources (like food, shelter, water, electricity) should be available to all citizens equally. That is why all public services should be nationalised.

Then everyone can starve, dehydrate, and live in a dark, tiny, slum apartment with five other families in the name of equality. :roll:



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19 Nov 2005, 4:43 am

RobertN wrote:
I think communism is too extreme. But democratic socialism is not, however, and is based on the idea that essential resources (like food, shelter, water, electricity) should be available to all citizens equally. That is why all public services should be nationalised.
I think socialism just one step closer to communism in the end Myself.


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20 Nov 2005, 6:57 pm

RobertN wrote:
1) Health (already nationalised)
2) Education (already nationalised)
3) Welfare (already nationalised)
4) Emergency Services (already nationalised)
5) Defense (already nationalised)
Not in my country! 8O
5) Ever heard of the lowest bidder?
4) Walmart is sending water trucks!
3) "Personal" Social Security accounts, "employment" agencies
2) Charter schools, vouchers
1) Health insurance. -.-



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