Why are aspergians a problem?

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Because they might be disabled, of course. No one should accept being labelled as disabled when they're not, though.



That disability means one is a second class human is something many movements fight against.

Because to view the term disability like something that makes people less than other people is the root of most problems that those who are disabled have in our society. Today it's a stigma that some people try to avoid by differentiating themselves from those people who cannot so easily pretend they receive all the same chances.

Neither my impairments nor the barriers people put towards me because of my difference make me less of a human person.

Just because I stand by who I am doesn't mean I must let others who can do what I can not do lead me.

The idea that anyone on this planet must accept leadership if they are a certain way or call themselves by a certain name or term is stupid.

The problems is that Asperger's is seen as a disability.

I do not see it as a disability. Neither do the majority of aspies.

Majority of Aspies?

Who do you speak for?

Exactly my question. AS is a disability. That's why it's something that is clinically diagnosed. You can choose to embrace it and even find traits that work to your advantage... but the fact is that when your brain is wired differently to most of the rest of the world, you are at a disadvantage. And the more Aspies rant about the NTs, the more they're admiting how disabled they are by what most accept as 'normal' society. That's not sucking up to NTs. That's just how percentages work.

You DARE to disagree with the United Powers of Aspergia?

Wait...you're...you're one of them! IT'S AN NT, ALERT THE DEFENCE FLEET!

The majority is not naturally superior to the minority because it is the majority.

That is circle argument.

You are exactly such aspie who is sucking up to neurotypicals.

A self-hating aspie.

You might hate yourself, but please, don't lie in way of railroad of history.

Your legs could get cut off then.

Point to me exactly where I said anything about superiority? You're the one who said the word first, not me.

I am not self-hating either. I love myself for who I am. But I accept that as someone in the minority, the world should not have to bow down to accommodate me and inconvenience the vaster majority.

NTs are not standing in the way. If anything, YOU are self-hating if you don't believe that you can be an equal in a world mostly populated by NTs. Do you really feel that threatened by them?

If you're diagnosed, you must have a significant impairment/disability in the medical sense. That is a criterion for AS. And it must have given you a hard time, disabling you, for you to be aware of it.

You may have overcome your problems. Made use of them, perhaps. Maybe they're there and you're in a situation that doesn't make these traits a problem.

But not all of us can do that. That's the point. Some can, some cannot.

The ones who cannot are just as good and trying as those who due to brilliant circumstances were able to overcome, work with their striking deficits in a way that fits society.

AS is autism and autism isn't exactly the most beneficial disorder for industry.



If those with AS are so accepting of different neurological states, they should be accepting of those who're AS and disabled too.



So what about all those on the spectrum who cannot do that?


What about all those who're unable to do the things these men did due to being a certain way of autistic (mostly, non-AS) and experiencing the world vastly different?

The whole tread initiated by robot looking member is such a BS.. the whole thing that he says not only makes any sence, it also boldly makes up so many a historic facts that has nothing to do with reality and history!, Well, I am surprised that the moderators let it exist at all. It is such an obvious mocking at common sence, such an obvious bashing of NTs.. , such an obvious bullying of intelligent people! I think it is a mere trolling and I regret that smart people spent any of their energy to feed this troll.
Well, I am disgusted that the moderators actively support all this paranoia..

Yeah, may be you should go ahead and open up... and read something.. Occupy your mind with something more usefull then trolling on this forum and teasing vulnurable and sensitive aspies. Yes, they are sensitive and vulnurable. And they tend to take things to heart even if it somebody comes up with obvious BS and just keeps mocking at them by trolling

Too much emphasis is placed on a person's neurotype and not nearly enough on his humanity. Going on and on abou how NTs and Aspies are different is just a smokescreen for giving up on everything. I can't respect that and I sure as sh*t won't accept it.

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+1

This, and quite a few other posts here, are well thought out and expressed. The Aspie Uber Alles sh*t is flat out ridiculous. This is one area where slowmutant and I actually agree, hi mutant, good to see you on the right side for a change.

It's frightfully good to have a little solidarity on something. For a change.

well. . .let's have a little solidarity on not feeding the energy . . .


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