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28 May 2006, 11:55 am

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A few thoughts

One thing we could do is have a series of submissions. Each person can do something a little different. It could then be distributed as some sort of collection.


Another thought is what is the objective. Do we want to inform? Provoke thought? Kill some time?
(This is not neccesarily a question that needs answering. The answer would vary :P)


I'm seeing this as a contrast between something 'artsy' vs 'documentary'. Do we use metaphors, or do we just present things as are?


I'm planning to do a series of flash animations somewhere down the line. Not going to start until I've really hammered down the details and gotten some actual talent. Figure something about Asperger's Syndrome might be a good place to start.


What can we do if we don't have a camcorder? Mine was stolen by a horrible NT. :? If we don't have access to equipment to record visually, or if our equipment is all incompatible with other people's equipment, how can we possibly make this work?



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28 May 2006, 1:51 pm

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Please, no battle here !


It won't decend that way we just needed to clear up the matter there n the, voice the rumour as it were



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28 May 2006, 2:12 pm

That wasn't for you (ok yes a bit) but i feared the reply....



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28 May 2006, 3:08 pm

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The other day i was reading the article on "Mozart and the whale". It ends by saying that it is a good film but: "But don't look for this to be the film that communicates ASD awareness to the general public or makes it "cool" to be an aspie. That step must wait for some other film."

I taught "Well, let's do it".

Rainman didn't make it cool to be autistic, and Forest Gump didn't make it cool to be mildly ret*d.. except for the "life is like a box of chocolates" catch phrase. Stories about afflictions have never really made them enviable.. they've just made them easier to point at. I'm an artist.. but not because I have aspergers.. thats just what I get for being an artist. I don't want people thinking it's a freaky side effect like having a twitch. A movie about a charactor who 'just happens' to have aspergers is fine as it would be part of their personality.. but having one about aspergers itself would be nearly impossible as there are that many types on the spectrum so one charactor would not adequately reflect them all.



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29 May 2006, 2:42 am

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... but having one about aspergers itself would be nearly impossible as there are that many types on the spectrum so one charactor would not adequately reflect them all.

Well there's your hook right there, silly! Remake The Breakfast Club with seven aspies. I'd make another spoof, but no one liked my first one. :x


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29 May 2006, 7:25 am

anandamide wrote:
]What can we do if we don't have a camcorder? Mine was stolen by a horrible NT. :? If we don't have access to equipment to record visually, or if our equipment is all incompatible with other people's equipment, how can we possibly make this work?


One of the reasons I liked the idea of multiple stories, is that some of them could be animations. Heck, a couple flash movies would probably a lot easier. Opens up a little more because then various individuals might be able to do some of the voices.

Before this topic opened up, I was giving some thought about some of us doing a collaboration on Newgrounds. But then while I enjoy pissing off angry idiots, others might not. But then again they don't have to read the comments :P And of course there's the additional problem of that we'd get a flood of idiots come on here and start on this epic campaign to put us down.

Of course we don't have to say where we're all from :P


And I was also thinking of doing one on my own. Which if I ever did you can be sure I'd brag about to no end here.


As was also mentioned, not simply having a character in the Autistic Spectrum is enough. My personal take on this is that we should make them "Cool" but not neccesarily popular. In otherwords, awesome, but everyone hates them :P The ideal reponse provoking either deeper thought, or hostility ('Damn it, that guy was a total loser! Why couldn't he get that through his head. Stop making films, you suck.')



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29 May 2006, 11:51 am

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Well there's your hook right there, silly! Remake The Breakfast Club with seven aspies. I'd make another spoof, but no one liked my first one. :x

All locked in one room? Would there be white coats involved? :?



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29 May 2006, 4:43 pm

You seem to have a very limited view of what aspies can accomplish, riley. I'm pretty sure high school is well within their capabilities.

A big part of being an "artist" is seeing possibilities where others just see problems, riley. How about showing us what YOU got so far, instead of just trashing other's ideas, Mr. Artist?

In fact, if ANYONE here has a better plot or more creative idea than Aspies On a Plane, they've yet to post about it here.


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29 May 2006, 5:48 pm

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You seem to have a very limited view of what aspies can accomplish, riley. I'm pretty sure high school is well within their capabilities.

I made a joke as I thought you did.. [locking socially awkeard people in a room together wouldn't yield good results]. How dare you infer that I think they can't be educated.
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A big part of being an "artist" is seeing possibilities where others just see problems, riley. How about showing us what YOU got so far, instead of just trashing other's ideas, Mr. Artist?

I am not one to tell people what they can and cannot do.. technically I might be an aspie but I don't place any limitations on myself because of it and I will never define myself as one. I am just ME. I do not like limitations in any form.. I do not think having central charactor of a movie being defined by having asperges is healthy.. people are people ..they all have their own defining qualities as individuals.. even 'NTs' which some people seem intent on comparing themselves to. If it's a strong charactor who just happens to have aspergers I'm fine with it but I do not like the idea of promoting people to label others as something as it only causes more limitations. Is that not the idea of this movie? The charactor is not the star.. the disorder is! :roll:



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29 May 2006, 5:55 pm

I think the theme should be about how society is intolerant of neurodiversity. We should tell about how we often end up being excluded when our potential is ignored because we don't fit the slots.



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29 May 2006, 6:59 pm

riley wrote:
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You seem to have a very limited view of what aspies can accomplish, riley. I'm pretty sure high school is well within their capabilities.

I made a joke as I thought you did.. [locking socially awkeard people in a room together wouldn't yield good results]. How dare you infer that I think they can't be educated.

No, I was NOT joking. You would only need to make the slightest of modifications to the movie The Breakfast Club to make ALL the club into aspies (even "the jock" had lots of aspie traits). And that movie does in fact show socially awkward individuals being locked together in a room, and does in fact have a good ending for everyone in the "club." If you've forgotten this, a repeat watching of the movie is overdue.

I'm glad your comment was meant in jest, but implying that the only situation where aspies might find themselves forced together would be an insane asylum continues to look like nothing more than a cheap slam on aspies to me.
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...If it's a strong charactor who just happens to have aspergers I'm fine with it but I do not like the idea of promoting people to label others as something as it only causes more limitations. Is that not the idea of this movie? The charactor is not the star.. the disorder is! :roll:

Everybody here does in fact want to make a movie about Asperger's Syndrome, or starring at least one aspie character where the syndrome is in fact key to the plot. And I think we were all fine with that until you showed up. Please stop casting aspersions on the efforts and intentions of the other good people working in this thread.

Your replies and sarcastic smilie-faces seem to show that it is in fact YOU who only has negative connotations for what Asperger's Syndrome entails. Once again, either contribute something constructive and positive to this thread, or kindly depart.


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30 May 2006, 6:16 am

I have already explained myself adequatly, yet you now seem intent on milking it. What happened to the positivity are encouraging me to add? You are promoting this quality yet your post is also designed to antagonise me so you know bloody well I couldn't react 'positively'.. thus fulfilling the bad guy charactor you are already trying to paint me as while trying to place yourself as some sort community authority. Then you give me an ultimatum where if I don't do what YOU tell me to do that I should leave.

I have no intention of having a pissing contest with you, I have no intention of leaving either. I suggest, instead of trying to create some sort of cleshe mucho stand off.. that you just ACCEPT that people are going to have differing opinions instead of having a hissy fit.



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30 May 2006, 1:10 pm

No, riley, I think a "pissing contest" is EXACTLY what this whole thread needs. I contend that my "Aspies On a Plane" post remains the pinnacle of movie treatments in this thread to date; none have dared to match me for depth of plot or complexity of characterization. This whole "let's all pass a camera around" attitude that has prevailed so far just reeks of high school art project. It'd create a total vanity piece; no one who isn't themself an aspie would have any interest in seeing such a film. I do believe that was the original goal of this thread--to spread public awareness of Asperger's Syndrome by making a film the public would actually watch.

So I challenge not only you, riley, but everyone else in this thread: either DARE to top the masterpiece that is Aspies On a Plane yourselves, or admit recognition of my GENIUS by default. Or, you know, just whine about how I'm holding you all down with my authoritarianism and my groundless rules.

Accept people's differing opinions instead of throwing a hissy fit? WHO SAYS I CAN'T DO BOTH? I accept opinions the mere CONCEPTION of which would make your cerebellum SHRIVEL UP and SLIDE DOWN THE INSIDE OF YOUR SPINAL COLUMN, and my "hissy fits" hiss LOUDER and fit TIGHTER than yours ever will. BEWARE.


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30 May 2006, 4:00 pm

So what happens next, Jellynail? Does the plane go down like on Survivor and then the aspies have to help the NTs survive or what?



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30 May 2006, 5:50 pm

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So what happens next, Jellynail? Does the plane go down like on Survivor and then the aspies have to help the NTs survive or what?

Whoa whoa WHOA there, anandamide! We can't use ALL our great ideas at once!
...Save some for the sequel! :wink:


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30 May 2006, 9:21 pm

I'll be played by Josh Hartnett