Need help writing my novel, Discovery

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29 Dec 2013, 4:11 pm

Hi Guy's,

I am currently writing a dystopian novel called discovery. It is set in the not too distant future, 2019-30 and it's main theme is about how people change when faced with certain events (deaths of friends, full scale conflict and being the target of an entire country bar a few supporters). It starts off with my character, Kais (a 23 year old Aspie), being targeted for unknown reasons by a corrupt government who's aim is to sort out the population of the country by getting rid of Autistics and Aspergics. My character and his friends get thrown into a series of events and by the end of the book there is only about three characters left alive.

Only problem is I struggle to create good characters from scratch and. I have exhausted my own ideas based off people I know for the novel. Can I have your help in creating a few characters for certain roles within the book (anyone who does will be mentioned in the thank you section of the book).

The roles I need characters for are:
A chief of operations at IPPC (International Persons Protection Committee)
A couple of members of the Mobile Unit Alpha (IPPC)
A leader of a mercenary group that are being used to hunt my character down.
A a couple of these mercenaries for different chapters.
A group of professional assassins that are used earlier on in the book until the government can't afford to keep paying them.

If you have any ideas for the above roles please post with an name and I will see what I can do about adding it into the novel.

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SRT



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29 Dec 2013, 8:05 pm

Your novel sounds fantastic. It should make a good science fiction novel. Since your main character will start out as someone is targeted by the government, he and his friends must survive. It also should add romance, betrayal, and a twist that will involve three surviving characters.


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30 Dec 2013, 8:33 am

I initially write my characters from where they need to be, and then adjust them accordingly. There's a lot of risk in this in making them appear shallow or fluff because the story demands it but when I discover I've done this, I go back and change what I need to. Also I throw in the small things that make the character who or what they are.

You could have the Chief of Operations at IPPC have an autistic child, or differing condition. It need not be a child but a relative, and this is what motivates them.

I take it Mobile Unit Alpha is the field team that recovers/rescues/investigates on site those persons being desired to be protected. They could have any number of motivations such as I'm only in this because it's a temp job to make ends meet, or I come highly recommended from my previous place but I had to leave because s**t went down and I'm persona non-grata in reality, or they could have some relationship such as a former working relationship with any of the other groups -- Mercenaries, Assassins, politicians of the country being dealt with. Having a number of differing characters then interact together can make for some interesting characterization. Not only do you have the characters themselves, but now some in depth interaction going on. Same for the Assassin group and Mercenaries. Each one of them can be in it for differing reasons.


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30 Dec 2013, 9:59 pm

SRT456 wrote:
Hi Guy's,

I am currently writing a dystopian novel called discovery. It is set in the not too distant future, 2019-30 and it's main theme is about how people change when faced with certain events (deaths of friends, full scale conflict and being the target of an entire country bar a few supporters). It starts off with my character, Kais (a 23 year old Aspie), being targeted for unknown reasons by a corrupt government who's aim is to sort out the population of the country by getting rid of Autistics and Aspergics. My character and his friends get thrown into a series of events and by the end of the book there is only about three characters left alive.

Only problem is I struggle to create good characters from scratch and. I have exhausted my own ideas based off people I know for the novel. Can I have your help in creating a few characters for certain roles within the book (anyone who does will be mentioned in the thank you section of the book).

The roles I need characters for are:
A chief of operations at IPPC (International Persons Protection Committee)
A couple of members of the Mobile Unit Alpha (IPPC)
A leader of a mercenary group that are being used to hunt my character down.
A a couple of these mercenaries for different chapters.
A group of professional assassins that are used earlier on in the book until the government can't afford to keep paying them.

If you have any ideas for the above roles please post with an name and I will see what I can do about adding it into the novel.

Best regards

SRT


This sounds like a good idea for a novel! Kind of like a George Orwell novel with an Aspie twist! I'm not sure how to help with those characters because I don't really know what you are looking for (e.g., is the IPPC an evil government organization?). I would suggest having one of the main villains transform into a "good guy", perhaps after himself being targeted when it is discovered that he has autism. Also, there should be a good reason why autistic people are being singled out. Maybe if you think of a secret sinister reason it can be like a mystery that will keep people interested. Otherwise, it should be part of a more general purge of mental "defectives," with a focus on the plight of autistic people. There is also potential for some great action scenes a la the Bourne series. Good luck!



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31 Dec 2013, 7:39 pm

SRT456 wrote:
Hi Guy's,

I am currently writing a dystopian novel called discovery. It is set in the not too distant future, 2019-30 and it's main theme is about how people change when faced with certain events (deaths of friends, full scale conflict and being the target of an entire country bar a few supporters). It starts off with my character, Kais (a 23 year old Aspie), being targeted for unknown reasons by a corrupt government who's aim is to sort out the population of the country by getting rid of Autistics and Aspergics. My character and his friends get thrown into a series of events and by the end of the book there is only about three characters left alive.

Only problem is I struggle to create good characters from scratch and. I have exhausted my own ideas based off people I know for the novel. Can I have your help in creating a few characters for certain roles within the book (anyone who does will be mentioned in the thank you section of the book).

The roles I need characters for are:
A chief of operations at IPPC (International Persons Protection Committee)
A couple of members of the Mobile Unit Alpha (IPPC)
A leader of a mercenary group that are being used to hunt my character down.
A a couple of these mercenaries for different chapters.
A group of professional assassins that are used earlier on in the book until the government can't afford to keep paying them.

If you have any ideas for the above roles please post with an name and I will see what I can do about adding it into the novel.

Best regards

SRT


My advice would be to use generic archetypes as placeholders until you figure out how the characters are going to advance the plot and then flesh out their characteristics to reinforce their role in the story.

Chief
= Overbearing Loudmouth
Mobile Unit Alpha
= Brute
= Wiry, Shifty guy
= All American type
Mercenary Leader
= Megalomaniac
Mercenaries
= Class Clown
= Street Smart Punk
Assassins
= Three
= Silent
= Ninjas

Just as an example, maybe you want your chief to be a Cold Fish or something else, it doesn't matter.



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01 Jan 2014, 11:43 am

Why would a government of one country want to eliminate spectrumites in another country?



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01 Jan 2014, 7:55 pm

SRT456 wrote:
A leader of a mercenary group that are being used to hunt my character down.
A a couple of these mercenaries for different chapters.
A group of professional assassins that are used earlier on in the book until the government can't afford to keep paying them.


You should think carefully about where you'll put this transition from professional assassins to cheaper mercs. It will be an opportunity to change the tone dramatically. Will this be a let off for the character because the mercs are less competent or it could be used to ratchet up the tension with the mercs being more reckless and violent like those Blackwater idiots they used in Iraq.



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01 Jan 2014, 10:15 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Why would a government of one country want to eliminate spectrumites in another country?

I agree, what's the underlying motive for the violence?

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02 Jan 2014, 1:34 am

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naturalplastic wrote:
Why would a government of one country want to eliminate spectrumites in another country?

I agree, what's the underlying motive for the violence?

PM me ...


Re-reading the OP I don't think there's two different countries here but I could be wrong.



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02 Jan 2014, 5:04 am

Just to give some clarity as I was sleep deprived when I put the original post up, this is set in the UK.

Info on the corrupt government and their motive:

The UK government has become corrupt because they have gained too much power and because of this the country starts to go backwards in all aspects. They start to look into ways of bringing the country back to it's original state without loosing power and see that some of the older techniques from ages ago actually made the country better (or so they thought). One of those that they think will be nice and easy is to restrict the voice that different groups have (by this point Autism ans Aspergers are classed as ethnic minorities because of how many people that have Autism or Aspergers by that point).

Because they don't want to seem like they are discriminating against any country in particular (they only just avoided a war because of something they tried three years before hand) they decide to pick autism and Aspergers, mostly because they think of it as the ethnic minority that doesn't discriminate (autism awareness campaigners will know what I am on about). They have looked at how to get restrict their voice so look for individuals or groups that could stop this. They don't want to take the charities out though as they know that could get ugly. Eventually, they just look at who would be easy to take out and decide on taking Kais out first as he is completely freelance and doesn't work for anyone.

Info on the IPPC:

The IPPC (International Persons Protection Committee) is an organisation which works outside all governments and won't work for them as they believe that if the governments wanted to protect someone they would be able to do it themselves. To help you understand this, imagine a cross between XCOM and Torchwood and that is the IPPC. The government knows that the organisation exists but don't know that Lukas, one of Kais' friends works for them and has swapped his high pay for Kais' protection as he has worked out what is about to happen because of a mole in the government. All of the agents in the IPPC are from various countries as that allows them to work everywhere and anywhere.

Mobile Unit Alpha is Lukas' team at IPPC. He has told them that they can't approach Kais until Kais is ready to fight with them. Throughout the book the team will be staying alive, dealing with the assassins and mercenaries and (taking advice from your suggestion LiamRodgers) there is a member who is a monster of a man (a bit like Butler from the Artemis Fowl series) a set of twins who are so alike they can finish each other's sentences, a wiry guy who is I charge of the teams technology on the field of battle, a veteran medic who has seen too much combat and says lines like "I am too old for this" and a couple of other members from differing countries.

Transition from Assassins to Mercenaries:

The transition will be made at the same time Kais agrees to fight alongside mobile unit alpha and the rest of the IPPC as the government has to get an army to fight them and the assassins are too expensive to hire in that great a number. The assassins increase their hire cost throughout and, because of how many are killed along the way, want to get revenge on the government themselves for the loss of their men. They end up teaming up with the IPPC in the final three battles to get this revenge.

I hope that clears up some of your questions or points and if you have anymore questions, pm me.

SRT



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02 Jan 2014, 5:13 pm

I still don't see a motive for the violence, per se.

If, in the future, autism becomes a "minority," I would be very interested in hearing more about that, and you could build an interesting plot on that basis, I feel.

May I ask who your lead character is? I assume you have a hero in there someplace.


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04 Jan 2014, 2:21 am

James Lenton
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brown hair
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57 years old
walks with a gait
Worked for the corrupt government until he fathered a son with Aspergers that changed his views, he tried to deny his son had Aspergers, tried to hide him from the public, homeschooled
People began to notice that his son was never around. Noticed his changing views regarding the treatment of people with Aspergers. A confederate informed him of of plots to take his child into "State care"
He got his wife and child out of the country filed a divorce (to use a cover).



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07 Jan 2014, 5:33 pm

Perhaps you could look at the show darker than black for inspiration; considering that it was filled with assassines, secrit agents, special police, and mysterius groups. As well as some other elements that have some similarity.