My response, dripping with sarcasm, to closet discrimination

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16 Jul 2015, 6:49 am

So... there's this guy who just won't accept me on this stupid programme (https://www.princes-trust.org.uk/about_ ... ramme.aspx), nominally due to AS, but in reality I suspect that since I inevitably revealed my sexuality to him when I was arguing with my ex (which he accepted, despite AS, though he didn't know about his sexuality initially)... so, I don't have direct evidence, he didn't admit it, but I suspect it's due to the latter that he's rejecting me (the delay refers to this stupid nominal rule about age thresholds - Brecon Beacons is where they go for a few days, which was effectively what convinced my ex to leave me - no wonder when it's so beautiful, and apparently receiving a massage). Thus, my latest email:

"Well, it's not exactly my fault for delaying like this either when I first requested this years ago. But that's exactly what you wanted. What would one know. You just wanted to help my ex... you probably just didn't know he had your non-preferred sexuality, huh. I guess I shouldn't have revealed that, but it was inevitable. Oh, by the way, be sure not to let your precious heterosexual young people be struck by lightning on the Brecon Beacons like those two unfortunate ones were recently."

A few emails before I said this, which seemed to frighten him (I *loathe* discrimination... and who says aspies can't use sarcasm? :o):

"Rest assured, though, if you're not prepared to give me this opportunity even after speaking with whomever you'd like to speak I'm prepared to fight you to the end, as this is a plain injustice. You shouldn't be selective in who you help. Just because you hold a grudge against me doesn't mean I should forever be deprived of an opportunity which seemed to actually breathe life into my ex. Thus, I'm prepared to phone and argue my case with whoever I can - Prince's Trust's CEO, my local MP (who somehow holds a high opinion of your organization, but I can convince him otherwise), or even the pseudoscientific prince himself. I am not lying low, rest assured."



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18 Jul 2015, 11:49 am

They're not going to help you. Likely ever.

You're being an a-hole. Rude, somewhat threatening, annoying & the whole nine yards.

You can't possibly have expected a positive response or result by sending either of those communications.. if you did, you have a LOT to learn about communication, sales, being friendly, politics and so forth.

I guarantee that whoever read both of those had the reaction of "F this guy." I know I would.


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18 Jul 2015, 4:53 pm

Erm, I'm not sure if you're saying that just because this is out of context but I've emailed this person hundreds of times, literally... he knows I'm frustrated... but do you really not think it's an injustice?



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20 Jul 2015, 10:41 pm

Mootoo wrote:
Erm, I'm not sure if you're saying that just because this is out of context but I've emailed this person hundreds of times, literally... he knows I'm frustrated... but do you really not think it's an injustice?


It's certainly not an injustice if you've emailed him with this attitude hundreds of times. They'd be entirely justified in ignoring you or telling you to F off. Seriously.

Nothing you have written above would make me want to help you or even communicate with you if I were on the receiving end of your letters. If you actually expect that sort of communication to yield your desired outcome then you really don't have a clue how to ask for help, or be nice, or negotiate something and so on and could REALLY use a lot of work in learning how to play nice with others. That is my honest feedback.


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21 Jul 2015, 3:29 am

You got the reverse side of it... I didn't email him with my request *after* these emails... these emails were after he already rejected me due my desperation after my ex left me. I was caught in a bad time and he just wouldn't forget it, even two years after he left me. He helped my ex (not knowing he's gay), despite being an aspie, but wouldn't help me, nominally due to AS, but I suspect more due to his non-preferred sexuality. I was merely expressing my frustration. I don't see how I can do that politely, especially after he still holds a grudge against me *two years* after the original incident.



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21 Jul 2015, 3:38 am

So tell the guy you think he's ignored your requests for help based on your sexual orientation all you want - just don't expect him to actually help you. Ever. IMO, say your piece if you need to get it off your chest.. call him a bigot or a homophobe if you believe he is one and you feel a need to point it out, whether to make you feel better or him to think about his actions. Then leave things be. You're not going to get anywhere with him. Ever. If you need help from someone, your time will be better spent contacting someone else & requesting help. You are never going to get help from that guy. Ever. Stop wasting your time.


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21 Jul 2015, 10:52 am

You don't seem very understanding yourself...



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22 Jul 2015, 5:38 am

Mootoo wrote:
You don't seem very understanding yourself...


I understand just fine. It seems that you are the one who has difficulty understanding the situation.


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22 Jul 2015, 6:37 am

Middle-man, or woman, with a little power will always use that in dealing with you,
and they never come back on their decision, you'll just have to work your way around them.

Like when I wanted information on a bill, I was told I should learn the language first.
I know that good enough for those matters, they just don't want to deal with that and hate ppl with foreign accents.
And gouvernment-related organisations like to have those gate-keepers.