I hate feminazis

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What sort of equality?

A point that Greer made: How low is the bar that everyone with higher aptitude, or higher standards is going to have to stoop to in order to produce this equality?

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I don't really rate Greer's theories. Probably the most over hyped of them all.

The problem that a lot people have is confusing opportunity with outcome.

I don't think I've ever met one real femnazi, in the way most politically interested people and "sjw-haters" describe them

People have to realize that women and children have been abused my men, since the DAWN OF f*****g TIME!! !

I am not a feminist, but the "Patriarchy" (or whatever they call it) over-did it for a long time, and first, second, and third wave feminism is the backlash.

Woman and children have also been put in positions of powerlessness as a result of male abuse.

If you actually take a look at some of these "femnazis", you'll find women who have been beaten, abused, bullied, harassed, called fat, slut, whore, you name it. By both men and women.

The femnazi is just the result of a culture that is toxic to BOTH men AND women.

We have neckbeard MRAs like ROOSHV who are the male equivalent.

...so sad...

Don't hate femnazis. Just be an open ear, and let them tire themselves out, and maybe give them a shoulder to cry on. They could use it.

This is all coming from myself: A Far-Right/Monarchist/Traditionalist, who believes in healthy patriarchy based on natural law, and mutual respect of both masculine and feminine roles.

What's irritating is how this thread turned into a discussion about racism; particularly towards black people. People on the far right seek to preserve the social order and maintain the status quo. And I've always viewed rightwing Aspies as Uncle Toms. Intersectional feminism promises so much but DELIVERS SO LITTLE. It wilfully disregards the struggle of autistic people and really has done nothing to combat racism against black people. And conservatives have a valid point that postermodernists and intersectional feminists are nothing more than social climbers exploiting other peoples struggles to make themselves look altruistic,.

Yes ... politicize some more ... factionalized some more ... more energy wasted on factional politics means less energy available for promoting equality and promotion by merit.

Keep it up, people! You're maintaining the status quo and keeping the Patriarchal Establishment in power!

MBUWAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Meritocracy is not compatible with human nature. The only places where it can exist is in unfree, non-democratic institutions like the military. Where is is *imposed* upon people.

Human beings are competitive and hierarchical and the evidence for this is observing how people behave when they are free to do so(as they are in the USofA). Several things to remember about competition:


1. It's all about WINNING. Winners keepers, losers weepers! So it makes no difference how you win as long as you manage to win. People often discover that they don't gain anything by playing fair. Having an unfair advantage helps people get ahead and they're not going to willingly give it up.

2. It's not enough to succeed; others must FAIL. That's right, it's a zero-sum game.


But one thing I'd like to point out is that not everybody competes in the same arena. Conservatives compete economically whereas liberals compete socially. When you have democratic socialism you get rampant social gamesmanship since economic competition isn't allowed.

I agree with some of that, AR15, but there are places where cooperation results in more of a 'win' than competition; this is most obvious in conditions where groups are competing with each other against other groups, and there is a high degree of relatedness within the group. In those conditions, helping others of one's own group can result in a net win for an individual, even at great personal loss.

Unfortunately, current conditions are such that human power has outstripped our evolutionarily driven paradigms and we're going to have to impose some cooperations that do not come naturally to many, if we want to survive with our civilization intact for another few centuries.

I think humans beings are both potentially hierarchical and horizontal.

People in the United States grow up there whole lives working in hierarchical institutions. So it is of no surprise to me, that most Americans can't think of another way of organizing themselves when given the opportunity.