How long before people stopped pretending you were okay?
It's usually women more than men that speak to me like this, for me the lady in the post office/shop by my house is the worst offender. I can walk in, pick up a stick of gum, take it to the counter to pay, and she treats me like a 5 year old. What could I possibly have done in that series of interactions that makes me seem weird? Somebody on WP suggested it was something to do with the eyes, maybe our eye contact is just unnatural in some way we can't control? I always worry it's something more obvious, like I've been talking to myself and not realised it lol, but something subtler like the eyes would make sense I guess.

Yes.
I have often spent an excessive amount of time trying to work out which word I might have accidentally replaced with something really embarrassing, or what I could have been doing/saying without realising.
I agree. It probably is eye contact. But then I just feel fascinated that NT people could quickly be so receptive to it. They noticed based on a one-sentence conversation. How is that even long enough to realise that something's not quite right? It's like magic...


Yes.
I have often spent an excessive amount of time trying to work out which word I might have accidentally replaced with something really embarrassing, or what I could have been doing/saying without realising.
I agree. It probably is eye contact. But then I just feel fascinated that NT people could quickly be so receptive to it. They noticed based on a one-sentence conversation. How is that even long enough to realise that something's not quite right? It's like magic...

I know, it's amazing that they could pick up on something 'off' within a matter of moments. Magic indeed


I don't think people ever thought I was okay. Even before I was born, supposedly people thought there would be something wrong with me because my biological mother was mentally challenged. People started to realize I was okay, when I started insisting people treat me like a human being...an ADULT human being.
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I remember being a young child and having one grandmother and several uncles vocalize things about me like 'what's wrong with that kid?'. I'm not sure anyone ever thought I was okay, but no one knew what was off about me... just that I was clearly not like other kids.
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I've gotten very tired of watching that "ooohhhhhh" look come over peoples' faces - the one where you can watch yourself stop being a person and become a special idiot in their mind. As a result, I've developed quite a resting bytch face. It makes people think twice about engaging with me, and being a scary witch is better than being a weirdo - people don't make fun of witches. Not to their faces, anyway.
Nobody ever thought I was neurotypical, but everybody kind of ignored my mental issues or said "it's PMS, get over it" or "she's just going through her emo phase" until I literally went to the school counselor in high school and said "I want to kill myself."
That's what it took for them to figure out that I *might* have severe depression.
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This. So much this. So many times this. Recently self diagnosed, and putting these pieces together. I've built up so much shame and self-doubt...a lifetime worth.
It's usually women more than men that speak to me like this, for me the lady in the post office/shop by my house is the worst offender. I can walk in, pick up a stick of gum, take it to the counter to pay, and she treats me like a 5 year old. What could I possibly have done in that series of interactions that makes me seem weird? Somebody on WP suggested it was something to do with the eyes, maybe our eye contact is just unnatural in some way we can't control? I always worry it's something more obvious, like I've been talking to myself and not realised it lol, but something subtler like the eyes would make sense I guess.

Yes.
I have often spent an excessive amount of time trying to work out which word I might have accidentally replaced with something really embarrassing, or what I could have been doing/saying without realising.
I agree. It probably is eye contact. But then I just feel fascinated that NT people could quickly be so receptive to it. They noticed based on a one-sentence conversation. How is that even long enough to realise that something's not quite right? It's like magic...

My parents thought, in my early years, before I began school, that I was a smart and social little girl. However, my kindergarten teacher saw something was off right away. She said I was "hyperactive" and couldn't learn anything because I came from an ESL background.
One year later, in first grade, I was reading at a fourth grade level-in English. Sounds like a happily ever after ending and I was on my way to a great life. Not so fast!
While my grades continued to be good throughout my schooling, culminating in a Master's Degree in English, my social skills were not good. I never had any of the social things others took for granted. I didn't get my first job until I was 29, never really dated and only got my driver's license at age 48. That has opened up a whole new world for me, but I still don't see myself falling in love, dating or getting married. I am reminded of the story, The Kid, where he says, "I'm a dogless, chickless, loser." I'm the female version, "A manless, catless (well only one cat left now) loser." When I think about it, it kills my enjoyment of life, temporarily. I'm not really a loser now because my opportunities have expanded greatly since getting my license.
Nobody has told me about autism/Asperger's, but my experiences in life, combined with what I've read, seem to confirm it to me. I feel it mostly when I do something stupid or have forgetful moments. I'm too young to call them "senior moments." Other people think of me as mostly all right, but I have a sinking feeling I am not entirely okay.
Late twenties, due to executive dysfunction and challenges presented on the job (despite good intellect), and an inability to relate well to others via typical friendship means and the like (bad at reading social cues, etc.). Folks started to figure out that perhaps there really was more to it than just me being a total geek, eccentric, shy, etc. After getting diagnosed two years ago, I now try to tell people who will have substantial interaction with me for whatever reasons (job, church functions, etc.) that I am autistic. It helps them be less surprised at my numerous quirks, and they realize they have to communicate to me in a way different from the usual "generic" Western cultural woman stereotype.
They're still pretending.
Thus, when I do a good job of pretending, I'm "fine."
And when I fail at pretending, well, I'm a really bad person.
They're still pretending, so I still have to. Except my dad's sister and one friend, all the people who knew how I am and understood are dead.
I'll be pretending until I decide that companionship is no longer worth the effort, or until I can't any more and the remaining people toss me out.
Such is life.
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