When NT's complain about rejection, anxiety, awkwardness...

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A lot of seemingly nice NTs manipulate lie and cheat as a way of life —
thats why they r willing to excuse it in each other

well i've met fair share of allistic as*holes. and then, i've met much much more allistic people who are not as*holes. who dont judge, who try to understand. and judging people for being allistic is better how? u are doing same thing allistic as*holes do to us. how that gonna help the whole thing in global scale? cant call anybody not-on-spectrum gossiping and manipulative. u only harm urself that way. im sorry if im being not tactful here, im flared. i feel insulted for good allistic people im friends with. (and ya the AU card, blabla). and ya when i meet new people im wary of them, but i dont let it kill the benefit of a doubt. and i had benefitted many a time that way. try.

first, NT (neurotypical) means NO disorders. people, who are not autistic are called allistic (and can be NOT NT). second, i have that family problem myself. and what i was saying is, that judging people by neuro build is as wrong as judging them by well, gender, skin color or any other thing. its about personality, not neurology. was whole purpose of my post.

well that does not happen with ONLY allistics, ONLY cheerleaders etc. and yes it is really so fragging annoying, when somebody had broken a nail and DEMANDS compassion. from people with no limbs or respiratory disfunction. metaphorically speaking. i hate that. i hit that. i hit it so hard i get rejected for it. it had hurt me immensely in turn too. so ya im trying to forgive them. for well, not knowing real pain. it cant be a crime, no? its called innocence (in biblical sense). when somebody just really has no idea what hell can be somewhere, so they think a bad place is hell enough. or a not so bad place. i learn to feel like "well, at least somebody is like that". and it helps me in turn. it heals me in turn. i dont say u should, but well, give it a thought. we dont want the whole planet a living hell, no? lets forgive those, who got luckier.

thank you. it is hard, i know like everybody else here, i do. i just also know what's on the other side. there are people that must not be forgiven, for various reasons, and knowing where to, and where to not, is experience, the spawn of hard mistakes. i am yet to make more mistakes in that field, too) im only learning)

I know what some of you are saying but I have to disagree with this because I have learned that these safety nets can be superficial friends who run when major life issues arise.

1. A friend of mine has a mom who was diagnosed with cancer and all her friends deserted her
2. There is a woman at my last synagogue who is NT and she is one of the nice people and people at that synagogue ignore her because she is a white woman who's daughters both married black men. Despite that, she's always been ignored too.

Then if you look at NTs who face bullying in high school for having red hair, or because they a boy that the popular girl wanted asked another person out who the popular girl dislikes, there you go.

Sure we face lots of rejection and exclusion and believe me I face it all the time and I am beginning to confront it

I really appreciate all ya'll's input. You really make me consider a lot of different ideas.

I do agree that 'comparing suffering' or attempting to one-up in that way is entirely pointless, even though it seems that the nature of my original post may actually promote this kind of thinking. I don't mean to compare suffering and I truly am grateful every day for my overall health, my physical capacity, my comfortable/sufficient living situation, and the like.

I know people with things like epilepsy, deafness, and other things that seem super scary to me. My health problems seem dwarfed compared to cerebral palsy or ALS. Just like you can always find someone that has it better than you, you can always find someone who has it worse and really would love to trade their problems for yours.

That said, I just feel that a proper social network, even if small, is a given for mostly everyone. Every new person I meet, I am hopeful deep inside that maybe they will be my new friend. But EVERYONE has people who they do things with. People often refer to "your friends" in conversations, as in "don't you hate it when your friends make you go to a nerdy movie" or "when your friends can't decide on a restaurant" or something like that. They talk about it like having "friends" is a given and people actually do stuff with each other, include all members of the group or care if one person is missing, etc. and it totally blows my mind. In my world, that's all fantasy.

I've had a few major health issues over the last few months that I never had before and I had no friends to tell about it, no friends to ask about it, no friends to worry. When i'm well, there's still no one there. For others, they suffer different illness, tragedy, etc but they have people with them through it. Even if they get dissed, they aren't just doomed to having no friends forever. They somehow make new friends or turn to a different friend group. When I lose a friend, it's like losing a limb. It doesn't grow back, it just becomes an empty space forever.

I've tasted wonderful mutual friendship before, just for a short time, and I feel like if I still had that, I could face anything.

thats the spirit!)))