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23 Aug 2020, 4:48 am

IDk its getting quite hard to sleep until the early hours of morning when I eventually get tired from being up all night. ANd yeah at this point I don't know how to stop it....my job cut me down to only 5 -6 hours a week..so now I am only going in two days a week. So most days I don't even have the convincing factor of 'I have to go to bed before too late because I have work in the morning.' Its like I get pretty much three weekends a week, since now I only go to work on wednesday and friday. Because before when I had a more regular 4 days a week schedule I could kind of use the I got work in the morning to make sure and go to bed earlier. And well most days I don't have work the next day so I can't use that to convince my brain to sleep. And well I have been ending up staying up till 4 or 5 in the morning, at which point I sleep for a few hours not even deep sleep weird sleep interrupted with weird dreams and then I get back up and sure on work nights I try to get to bed by 1 in the morning at the latest so I can get at least 6 hours before I have to get up and go to work. But yeah here right now its gaining on 4 in the morning and I still don't feel like going to bed, even though I plan on getting up by 9 in the morning.

I am just concerned it'll cause insanity(getting such little sleep), but also half the time it feels like the dreams I have when I do sleep also run the risk of causing insanity as well but also staying awake to avoid weird dreams can also do that....so IDk I guess that is what they call being stuck between a rock and a hard place. Well and also when I do get to bed earlier I still end up waking up in the early hours of the morning like anywhere from like 3, 4 or 5 in the morning when I don't need to be up till at least 7. and its hard to even get back to sleep. To the point I think next time that happens I will just get up then because also every time it happens if I do get back to sleep before I actually have to get out of bed I always end up having weird unpleasant dreams.


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23 Aug 2020, 9:52 am

Gosh. You sound like those teenagers in the Elm Street movies, who need to stay awake to escape being murdered by Freddy Kruger attacking them in their dreams.

What are these weird dreams that you're having- if you dont mind me asking?



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23 Aug 2020, 1:07 pm

It could cause insanity...or just a lot of fatigue and possibly depression. How is your physical health...are exercise and diet good? Sometimes that can make a big difference.



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27 Aug 2020, 9:25 pm

If you are not taking an antidepressant, I highly recommend it. You have to see a doctor for a script (any kind, does not have to be a psych) but it may help you to sleep more, relieve some of the anxiety about not sleeping, and possibly give you calmer dreams. When I started on mine, I slept some better but I felt SO much better.


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27 Aug 2020, 10:28 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Gosh. You sound like those teenagers in the Elm Street movies, who need to stay awake to escape being murdered by Freddy Kruger attacking them in their dreams.

What are these weird dreams that you're having- if you dont mind me asking?


Well just lots of weird stuff...I get like recurrent dreams of this weird version of things that happened in the past. Like it resembles the real world but its not, I even end up seeing family members and people I knew in them. IDK I guess its just the kind of dreams where you can wake up feeling like 'wait...did that happen or is it just a dream.' Many times its just a dream but I still wake up having to kind of check with reality that what I dreamt was in fact just a dream. I think some may be related to turmoil in my past and maybe its just my subconscious trying to make sense of it all. Also I get recurrent locations in my dreams. For example there is a swimming pool I have been in many times in dreams, sometimes it changes a little but whenever I dream of a swimming pool in a way it is always the same pool I have had in every dream.

But yeah there isn't usually a specific theme its just random weird stuff happening. I guess sometimes its stuff like feeling like everyone is against me, and family members won't listen. Or like at points maybe I am trying to hang out with my cousin and sister and they don't want me to(sure happened a couple times, but not in the way of the dreams where its like they just totally ignore me) IRL it was more maybe I was getting all moody so they gave me crap, but they never actually just totally ignored me like in a couple of the dreams. Then sometimes there is stuff like crazy idk UFOs in the air or weird space stuff going on that I see. Or another recurrent kind of theme is being in f*cked up houses...like theres weird problems with the plumbing or furnace that make it so there are horrendous leaks, or floors are caving in, some bathrooms cannot be used because of it. But yeah I guess its kind of hard to really think of or describe the more offputting parts, but I can say a lot of these dreams cause me to feel like instead of getting sleep I just got a trainwreck of nonsese with little bits of hurtful things from my past mixed in.


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27 Aug 2020, 10:36 pm

NeilM wrote:
If you are not taking an antidepressant, I highly recommend it. You have to see a doctor for a script (any kind, does not have to be a psych) but it may help you to sleep more, relieve some of the anxiety about not sleeping, and possibly give you calmer dreams. When I started on mine, I slept some better but I felt SO much better.


I tried anti-depressants before, and they didn't help with anything...Just seems I am prone to getting the adverse reactions to those kind of things. I did ok with valium, for anxiety and it occurs to me that could help with a more relaxing sleep but IDK if I could get it prescribed for that. Valium is a benzo so they could think I just want to abuse it, but its really just the only prescribed drug I ever had that really relaxed things without causing adverse effects.


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27 Aug 2020, 10:53 pm

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It could cause insanity...or just a lot of fatigue and possibly depression. How is your physical health...are exercise and diet good? Sometimes that can make a big difference.


uhh...no my exercise and diet is not good, I mean it would be a lie if I said it was. I have been trying to think of ways to improve it like its hard for me to eat anything for breakfast Idk if it is stress or what, but then so I may not eat till closer to lunch time...but admittedly the things I eat are not very healthy. I have thought of trying to get like a supplement shake I can drink in the morning just to get some nutrients and things in there at the beginning of the day even if it is hard to actually eat. Also lately I don't really know why but with a bunch of wildfires in my state and smoke in the air, for some reason that makes it even harder to eat. So I end up waiting too long and then just basically eating junk food to make the hunger pains go away. As for exercise, I could probably use a bit more just not sure what to do in that regard as of late excursions outside don't seem like a great idea with all the smoke in the air. But not sure what I could do at home I never was good at fitness stuff but I do know it can have some health benefits.


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28 Aug 2020, 1:08 pm

I understan, because I am the same. I always go to sleep early in the morning because I get really tired. I got used to it and now I try to do something productive during that time.



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30 Aug 2020, 3:02 am

I recommend speaking to your GP or a head (psychiatrist) doctor.

I used to have long term Insomnia since childhood, really bad dreams and such.

Over a decade of medication for the resulting mental illness I contracted most likely from lack of good sleep.

I have found that head doctor medication SPECIFICALLY for sleep makes the nightmares even worse. Sometimes even resulting in Mania / Heightened states etc; later on, if it comes to seeing a head doctor, Some antipsychotics can be really quick to give you deep sleep, but be careful when seeing a head doctor as misdiagnosis can happen often (Like Anti-depressants, which someone here mentioned which I why I mention too)

The only thing I have found to work is Melatonin script, within 30 mins to 45 mins of taking actively try to sleep, avoid stimulants and food IF you can. There is also a "homeopathic Melatonin" medication at the chemists you can try without script, but it doesn't work for me. For some reason I think homeopathic stuff works better on females, I don't know why, it's just a guess.



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31 Aug 2020, 12:31 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
NeilM wrote:
If you are not taking an antidepressant, I highly recommend it. You have to see a doctor for a script (any kind, does not have to be a psych) but it may help you to sleep more, relieve some of the anxiety about not sleeping, and possibly give you calmer dreams. When I started on mine, I slept some better but I felt SO much better.


I tried anti-depressants before, and they didn't help with anything...Just seems I am prone to getting the adverse reactions to those kind of things. I did ok with valium, for anxiety and it occurs to me that could help with a more relaxing sleep but IDK if I could get it prescribed for that. Valium is a benzo so they could think I just want to abuse it, but its really just the only prescribed drug I ever had that really relaxed things without causing adverse effects.


If you cant get a prescription for valium, read up on and consider making a purchase for some valerium root. It tastes and smells a bit, but is an over the counter herbal supplement with some similarities to benzos.



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01 Sep 2020, 8:57 am

Just wolfing down a hardy meal, and giving myself a "food coma" does it for me. Helps if you eat fast, and dont do a lot of chewing.