Are You An Outsider?
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Green Day did a good cover of that song but I had to go with the original. BTW good song choice ASPartOfMe.
Moving on... I felt like an outside my whole life. I have various disabilities besides Aspergers that caused me to struggle with school & lots of life stuff. I was majorly bullied when I started school until I went to a school for dyslexia in the middle of 6th grade(my parents didn't know about the school before). I never really tried to fit in cuz I never really knew how to even start. I just knew I did not belong. I felt like an outside with my family as well. I don't really have a family history of most of my disabilities & family including my parents do NOT relate or understand. My mom was VERY FRUSTRATED with me for being dependent & needy & her methods of trying to push me did NOT work for me which caused us to have LOTS of major fights until I moved in with my current girlfriend at 30. My current girlfriend & both my exes were the only people I really connected with & relate to. I do fit in a lot better on WP than I do offline & on other sites but I'm more rouge here than clickish. I don't really care about fitting in anywhere. I want to avoid problems thou & when I was working I did want to do rite by management & others. I do want to start working again but I believe I can be a good worker while not fully fitting in or conforming to a click. I use manners & I'm eager to please but I much rather focus on work than visiting & chitchatting. I like some visiting & chitchatting with good people & I like joking with people who appreciate jokes but doing the work is my top priority. I was kind of a misanthrope after my 1st relationship fell apart. I was very lonely & I had NO luck finding anyone for 8 years straight. i felt like people

A Ramones song is always a good choice.
Another outsider themed song
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DSM 5: Autism Spectrum Disorder, DSM IV: Aspergers Moderate Severity
“My autism is not a superpower. It also isn’t some kind of god-forsaken, endless fountain of suffering inflicted on my family. It’s just part of who I am as a person”. - Sara Luterman
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I remember in childhood and teenage hood that I was experience the world in a dream-like state/spaced out with phycotic-type sensory hallucinations in public (unusual sensory experiences), rather than having the natural ability to bounce of people's verbal communication and inter-personally connect to people naturally but No, I never consciously felt like an outsider, sometimes felt/feel isolated, just that I was experiencing the world stronger and as an outsider and in my own world , I was an awkward child and teenager around people and possibly developed some paranoid traits when I begun getting bullied . A memory is my first smell of cannabis from a hippy when I was about 7, the smell ran through my senses and body . I wasn't able to process sensory information in public and spent a lot of time staring at the ceiling watching the room breathe at home and listening to the world in motion around me , maybe I accidentally inhaled some of their cannabis , so in that sense, I was an outsider amongst in socially motion people . I had a weird childhood and teenage hood . I've kind of broke the looking glass more recently and have reduced cognitive abilities since education ended . I was dependant on school and college to express myself in creative writing and music rather than sociability but did start a band with other outsiders , I was outsider amongst outsiders then and it was overwhelming but the best time of my life , possibly exctecy . Literal exctecy was ok too .
I don't know how the future lies. It just lies so often so I don't know.
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Sometimes I can fit in...for a while.
But it's exhausting.
Following every conversation, reacting to every statement, watching faces to note nuances and tailoring responses to changes in them...all of it quickly empties the tank of my psyche.
And if another person or two show up, and I have to start over...
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"We see the extent to which our pursuit of pleasure has been limited in large part by a vocabulary foisted upon us"
But it's exhausting.
Following every conversation, reacting to every statement, watching faces to note nuances and tailoring responses to changes in them...all of it quickly empties the tank of my psyche.
And if another person or two show up, and I have to start over...

A lot of times, I know very well how to fit in, in most situations. But, I dont always have the courage or self confidence to go and start a conversation with someone else, especially not women. Other times, certain situations feel uncomfortable for a conversation, atleast for me. So I dont try and start any social setting.
I feel like I'm not 100% like everyone else is in certain situations, but sometimes its simply because others in that situation are too different than me, and I wouldnt feel that way if I was in a group of people who have similar interests to mine, or similar personalities. I also dont necessarily feel like I need to have many friends in order to succeed in certain things, or that possibly, some friends would make me feel annoyed or miserable, so I avoid talking to them.
But, with the current coronavirus, I must admit even when I know how to do it and can think of situations to be in that would go well, the coronavirus ruins my plans. Also, financial difficulties are another problem due to unemployment.
Are you punished because of that?
Do you not fit in, no matter how hard you try?
Have you given up trying?
I just know that the square box people have layers and layers of social rules and it always feels very uncomfortable for me to deal with them and gets more uncomfortable with age because the layers of rules multiply
It used to be in my younger years I was appreciated for being a bit odd and generally fairly funny. Comedic timing is something I can sense and feel and making people laugh is legitimately my one trick pony when it comes to interacting with them. As a full fledged adult, this no longer really works. People are even more serious and even more hard wired and obedient to their unspoken rules of engagement.
I would say I've gone from enjoying not fitting in and enjoying feeling like I was an amusing character to the friends I had to just absolutely having no idea what I'm doing now that it comes to people because being amusing and/or funny in most adult social circumstances is not the right tone. So, eh?
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I often feeling like I don't even know what societal expectations are, does that count?
I haven't been beating with sticks for a while, but in more subtle ways, yes
I was born to not fit in, whether I want to or not
What I am trying to give up is wallowing in self pity, trying to be something I'm not and comparing myself to normal folk. That is exhausting and I've gotten too old for that.
Uh oh, he made a self-affirming statement...
I feel an ambush of acceptance billowing up on the horizon
For anyone else reading this is a developing joke from another thread - I'm not a bully
I understand how you feel.
So I've taken I believe every test that exists for Asperger's, HFA and for the most part I am just so narrowly considered to "belong" within this category. Except the two-factor imagination test where I do not score in the range that most people with HFA do. So in essence, even amongst the people who feel they fit in nowhere, not even there do I fit in. Which frankly, I just find kind of funny.
I've for most of my life mostly attributed the way I am to being left-handed. Which, HFA or not, is already a pretty obvious disparity from the overwhelming norm. And there is a correlation with HFA and left-handedness. So it depends on how I'm being "measured" as to which box I get slotted into. Ah such arbitrary madness.