perception and art (not music) vs. aspies

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24 Aug 2007, 9:35 pm

Is it just me or are most creative aspies into music rather than art? I know I know somebody's gonna say well heck aint music art too? No i mean visual art.

I was reading in Temple Grandin's book "Thinking in Pictures" how aparantly autists and i would assume aspies too, see things in little compartmentalized bits rather than in big relationships to eachother. This is significant for a visual artist because composition is all about how bits relate to the whole. It is a problem for me because seeing things in big relationships to eachother doesnt come easily to me. I have to work at it and i dont always get there. its very frustrating.

Sometimes I think music might have been a better feild to get into. I listen to it for the patterns. Half the time i dont hear what the singer says until the third or forth listening. As a maker of art however, experiencing things in little compartmentalized peices is a handicap, at least for me.

What about the rest of you?



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24 Aug 2007, 10:25 pm

Dunno, but I can tell you that I was drawing since I was at least four, years before I started music. But I do both, and actually am fascinated by the interaction of the two, i.e., Fantasia, Carl Stalling/Loony Tunes, etc. I actually try to illustrate my own music.

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25 Aug 2007, 2:21 am

On the surface it would seem that I am heavily into music with a side interest in visual art such as painting, drawing and photography.

In reality this is not really true; what I am really into is pattern.

Some patterns hold a particular relevance and meaning for me which cannot be descibed in words.

It matters not to me whether that pattern is visual in Nature, man made objects, sculpture, painting, music, poetry or photography etc.

That's why I don't understand when people say "I really like that music, it has a lovely tune"; to me it is all about pattern.



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26 Aug 2007, 5:26 pm

Asparval wrote:
On the surface it would seem that I am heavily into music with a side interest in visual art such as painting, drawing and photography.

In reality this is not really true; what I am really into is pattern.

Some patterns hold a particular relevance and meaning for me which cannot be descibed in words.

It matters not to me whether that pattern is visual in Nature, man made objects, sculpture, painting, music, poetry or photography etc.

That's why I don't understand when people say "I really like that music, it has a lovely tune"; to me it is all about pattern.


i think it's true for me too,
i love my trumpet and love electronic music and can't live without my paintbrush,

and it is about technically reproducing patterns, they can be complex but it is not a verbal thing, ever.
and the only emotion involved is satisfaction and some kind of pleasant quiteness (even when it involves loud dark scary music), it calms me down to work on such things, musically or visually.
and i like it that way, i wouldn't want any words or feelings or whatever coming to bother me when i'm painting for exemple.
it is also always obsessive, i can wait or delay to dive into it, but once into it, there are things to be finished.



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28 Aug 2007, 12:23 pm

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how bits relate to the whole.

I often draw my main thing and then spend hours trying to think what I could do to that would fit into the empty space - my drawings end up with one incredibly detailed image often simply on a dark, patterned or just reeds background.

I do art by colours schemes and patterns - if I close my eyes the colours must 'fit.' I see everything in colours (e.g Maths is blue while the number 15 is yellow and in cat, the a is red, the k darkens it to maroon and the weak t is cancelled by the a) if I look closely the detail must be minute. I like things like fractals, patterned animal coats and trees because they repeat.



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30 Aug 2007, 8:06 pm

I knew already as I child that I was attracted to what my senses told me. I was amazed by things I saw and heard, I was an explorer of my surrounding world. That was something that applied to sound as well as images. I was amazed by the sound of the wind, the sound of an echo in a room, the sound of the rain pouring and the water flowing through a sewer pipe. I was amazed by the patterns I saw various items, in construction, in nature.

Already as a child I wanted to replicate and elaborate on what I saw and heard, although I lacked the skill and knowledge, as well as the tools. As I grew more mature I learned that such procedures were called art. My achilles' heel was my bad motoric skills. I couldn't play the piano as I wanted to. I wanted to draw. I had ideas and will, but my hand coordination (and attention span by all means) stopped me. At last I got acquinted with computer music software, which was my saviour. I could now start to harness my creativity to some degree because I had the option to write notes one by one, and create patterns without the need for perfect hand coordination.

I could probably have been a graphic artist based on my biological premises, but at this point the music is dominant in my scope of creativity.


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30 Aug 2007, 9:19 pm

graphic designer and painter, checking in.



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31 Aug 2007, 3:40 am

curious to see your work then



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31 Aug 2007, 9:13 am

Images start somewhere, never the whole, and like writing, when I start I have no idea where it will end.

The art books tell me to think the scene out, as a whole, but I might start with a hand, which has an arm, connected to a body, and somehow, everything around. The background is filled with discovery.

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31 Aug 2007, 10:46 am

Painting is one of my interests and hobbies,and I even make my own picture frames from the wood.
I also make rosettes and various floral forms out of wood plates,mostly inspired by "art nouveau ".


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