25 Feb 2023, 4:04 pm
funeralxempire
Veteran
Joined: 27 Oct 2014
Age: 40
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 30,256
Location: Right over your left shoulder
25 Feb 2023, 5:57 pm
26 Feb 2023, 2:05 am
Sonic200 wrote:
It's an extension of "ladies and gentlemen! used to include people who identify as agender.
Ladies, gentlemen, and gender diverse?
I am pretty sure this would offend someone also, however.
26 Feb 2023, 4:43 am
26 Feb 2023, 9:41 am
Pepe wrote:
Sonic200 wrote:
It's an extension of "ladies and gentlemen! used to include people who identify as agender.
Ladies, gentlemen, and gender diverse?
I am pretty sure this would offend someone also, however.
"Ladies, gentlemen, and agenders!"
"Ladies, gentlemen, and others!"
"Gentlepeople!"
26 Feb 2023, 2:22 pm
26 Feb 2023, 6:05 pm
Sonic200 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Sonic200 wrote:
It's an extension of "ladies and gentlemen! used to include people who identify as agender.
Ladies, gentlemen, and gender diverse?
I am pretty sure this would offend someone also, however.
"Ladies, gentlemen, and agenders!"
"Ladies, gentlemen, and others!"
"Gentlepeople!"
OUCH!
Keep that one to yourself.
"Others" sounds as though they are superfluous, IMO.
26 Feb 2023, 6:21 pm
26 Feb 2023, 9:58 pm
27 Feb 2023, 8:27 am
27 Feb 2023, 5:39 pm
28 Feb 2023, 1:53 am
28 Feb 2023, 2:17 am
magz wrote:
My daughters "identify" as a cat and a puppy.
Of course, they know they physically aren't but this helps them explain really a lot about how they experience the world and interact with it.
My RL friend has a very strong animal identity, too.
In totemic belief systems, such things are considered normal - so I suspect it's quite widespread IRL. Body modifications are probably more connected to general acceptance for body modifications in a given culture.
Of course, they know they physically aren't but this helps them explain really a lot about how they experience the world and interact with it.
My RL friend has a very strong animal identity, too.
In totemic belief systems, such things are considered normal - so I suspect it's quite widespread IRL. Body modifications are probably more connected to general acceptance for body modifications in a given culture.
I have always identified with the lone wolf.
28 Feb 2023, 7:50 am
The_Walrus wrote:
Well, my view is that it's none of my business what someone else identifies as, even if I don't understand it.
"Human" rights should not be awarded based on identity or even species, but based on whether they're fundamentally self-aware enough to suffer as a result of being deprived of them. I think this is a threshold that every human who has brain activity meets, regardless of whether they personally feel like a mermaid or whatever. The act of being able to say "I identify as a mermaid", while bizarre to me, is proof that the person is capable of the sort of cognition that should entitle them to the same legal rights as a human.
If you identify as a protected species - so what? We already give all humans more rights than we give any protected species. Nobody is going to introduce humans into captive breeding programmes.
But frankly I'll think seriously about otherkin when I start seeing functioning adults, in real life, requesting medical treatment in such numbers that scientific journals cover it. I see no reason to be concerned about teenage experimentation, or indeed that of vulnerable, powerless adults.
"Human" rights should not be awarded based on identity or even species, but based on whether they're fundamentally self-aware enough to suffer as a result of being deprived of them. I think this is a threshold that every human who has brain activity meets, regardless of whether they personally feel like a mermaid or whatever. The act of being able to say "I identify as a mermaid", while bizarre to me, is proof that the person is capable of the sort of cognition that should entitle them to the same legal rights as a human.
If you identify as a protected species - so what? We already give all humans more rights than we give any protected species. Nobody is going to introduce humans into captive breeding programmes.
But frankly I'll think seriously about otherkin when I start seeing functioning adults, in real life, requesting medical treatment in such numbers that scientific journals cover it. I see no reason to be concerned about teenage experimentation, or indeed that of vulnerable, powerless adults.
you make good points. What medical treatment would otherkin ask for? artificial claws? fishtails?!
28 Feb 2023, 8:18 am
